I think there is a bug in how processing-time timers work. For event-time, we 
fire timers when the watermark is >= the timestamp, this is correct because a 
watermark T says that we will not see elements with a timestamp smaller or 
equal to T. For processing time, a time of T does not say that we won't see an 
element with timestamp T. Therefore the triggering behaviour is wrong for 
processing time. I created a Jira issue for this: 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-9857

Best,
Aljoscha

> On 16. Jul 2018, at 07:36, Yuan,Youjun <yuanyou...@baidu.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Hequn,
>  
> To my understand, a processing time window is fired at the last millisecond 
> of the window(maxTimestamp). Then what will happen if more elements arrive at 
> the last millisecond, but AFTER the window is fired?
>  
> Thanks,
> Youjun
> 发件人: Hequn Cheng <chenghe...@gmail.com> 
> 发送时间: Friday, July 13, 2018 9:44 PM
> 收件人: Yuan,Youjun <yuanyou...@baidu.com>
> 抄送: Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org>; user@flink.apache.org
> 主题: Re: 答复: 答复: TumblingProcessingTimeWindow emits extra results for a same 
> window
>  
> Hi Youjun,
>  
> The rowtime value in udf:EXTRACT(EPOCH FROM rowtime) is different from the 
> rowtime value of window. Sql will be parsed and translated into some nodes, 
> Source -> Calc -> Window -> Sink. The Calc is the input node of Window and 
> the udf is part of Calc instead of Window. So the max_ts and min_ts is 
> actually the time before entering the window, i.e, not the time in window.
>  
> However, I still can't find anything valuable to solve the problem. It seems 
> the window has been triggered many times for the same key. I will think more 
> about it.
>  
> Best, Hequn.
>  
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:53 AM, Yuan,Youjun <yuanyou...@baidu.com 
> <mailto:yuanyou...@baidu.com>> wrote:
> Hi Hequn,
>  
> I am using Flink 1.4. The job was running with  1 parallelism.
>  
> I don’t think the extra records are caused by different keys, because:
> I ran 2 jobs consuming the same source, jobA with 2-minute window, and job 
> with 4-minute window. If there are wired keys, then jobA will get no more 
> records than jobB, for the same period. But that not true, jobA got 17 
> records while jobB got 11. Relevant results could be found below.
> For each window, I output the min and max timestamp, and found that those 
> extra records always start at the last few milliseconds of the 2 or 4-minte 
> windows, just before window got closed. I also noticed the windows did not 
> have a clear cut between minutes, as we can see in jobA’s output, ts 
> 1531448399978 appears in 18 result records, either as start, or end, or both.
>  
> jobA(2-minute window) output
> {"timestamp":1531448040000,"cnt":1668052,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448040003,"max_ts":1531448159985}
> {"timestamp":1531448160000,"cnt":1613188,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448159985,"max_ts":1531448279979}
> {"timestamp":1531448280000,"cnt":1664652,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448280004,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448280000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448280000,"cnt":2,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448280000,"cnt":4,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448280000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448280000,"cnt":2,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448280000,"cnt":2,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448280000,"cnt":2,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448280000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448280000,"cnt":2,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448280000,"cnt":2,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448280000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448280000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448280000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448280000,"cnt":2,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448280000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448280000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448400000,"cnt":1593435,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448519978}
>  
> jobB(4-minute window) output
> {"timestamp":1531447920000,"cnt":3306838,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531447919981,"max_ts":1531448159975}
> {"timestamp":1531448160000,"cnt":3278178,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448159098,"max_ts":1531448399977}
> {"timestamp":1531448160000,"cnt":4,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399977,"max_ts":1531448399977}
> {"timestamp":1531448160000,"cnt":5,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399977,"max_ts":1531448399977}
> {"timestamp":1531448160000,"cnt":8,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399977,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448160000,"cnt":7,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448160000,"cnt":2,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448160000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448160000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448160000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448160000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448160000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448399978}
> {"timestamp":1531448400000,"cnt":3226735,"userId":"user01","min_ts":1531448399978,"max_ts":1531448639916}
>  
> Thanks
> Youjun
>  
> 发件人: Hequn Cheng <chenghe...@gmail.com <mailto:chenghe...@gmail.com>> 
> 发送时间: Thursday, July 12, 2018 11:31 PM
> 收件人: Yuan,Youjun <yuanyou...@baidu.com <mailto:yuanyou...@baidu.com>>
> 抄送: Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org <mailto:twal...@apache.org>>; 
> user@flink.apache.org <mailto:user@flink.apache.org>
> 主题: Re: 答复: TumblingProcessingTimeWindow emits extra results for a same window
>  
> Hi Yuan,
>  
> Haven't heard about this before. Which flink version do you use? The cause 
> may be:
> 1. userId not 100% identical, for example contains invisible characters.
> 2. The machine clock vibrated.
>  
> Otherwise,  there are some bugs we don't know.
>  
> Best, Hequn
>  
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 8:00 PM, Yuan,Youjun <yuanyou...@baidu.com 
> <mailto:yuanyou...@baidu.com>> wrote:
> Hi Timo,
>  
> This problem happens 4-5 times a day on our online server, with ~15k events 
> per second load, and it is using PROCESSING time. So I don’t think I can 
> stably reproduce the issue on my local machine.
> The user ids are actually the same, I have doubled checked that.
>  
> Now, I am wondering could it possible that, after a window fires, some last 
> events came but that still fall to the time range of the just fired window, 
> hence new windows are assigned, and fired later. This can explain why the 
> extra records always contain only a few events (cnt is small).
>  
> To verify that, I just modified the SQL to also output the MIN timestamp of 
> each windows, and I found the MIN timestamp of theextra records are always 
> point to the LAST second of the window.
> Here is the output I just got, note 1531395119 is the last second of a 
> 2-minute window start from 1531395000.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> {"timestamp":1531394760000,"cnt":1536013,"userId":"user01","min_sec":1531394760}
> {"timestamp":1531394880000,"cnt":1459623,"userId":"user01","min_sec":1531394879}
> {"timestamp":1531395000000,"cnt":1446010,"userId":"user01","min_sec":1531395000}
> {"timestamp":1531395000000,"cnt":7,"userId":"user01","min_sec":1531395119}
> {"timestamp":1531395000000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01","min_sec":1531395119}
> {"timestamp":1531395000000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01","min_sec":1531395119}
> {"timestamp":1531395000000,"cnt":6,"userId":"user01","min_sec":1531395119}
> {"timestamp":1531395000000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01","min_sec":1531395119}
> {"timestamp":1531395000000,"cnt":2,"userId":"user01","min_sec":1531395119}
> {"timestamp":1531395000000,"cnt":2,"userId":"user01","min_sec":1531395119}
> {"timestamp":1531395000000,"cnt":2,"userId":"user01","min_sec":1531395119}
>  
> The modified SQL:
> INSERT INTO sink
> SELECT
>                 TUMBLE_START(rowtime, INTERVAL '2' MINUTE) AS `timestamp`, 
>                 count(vehicleId) AS cnt, userId,
>                 MIN(EXTRACT(EPOCH FROM rowtime)) AS min_sec
> FROM source
> GROUP BY
>                 TUMBLE(rowtime, INTERVAL '2' MINUTE),
>                 userId
>  
> thanks
> Youjun
>  
> 发件人: Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org <mailto:twal...@apache.org>> 
> 发送时间: Thursday, July 12, 2018 5:02 PM
> 收件人: user@flink.apache.org <mailto:user@flink.apache.org>
> 主题: Re: TumblingProcessingTimeWindow emits extra results for a same window
>  
> Hi Yuan,
> 
> this sounds indeed weird. The SQL API uses regular DataStream API windows 
> underneath so this problem should have come up earlier if this is problem in 
> the implementation. Does this behavior reproducible on your local machine?
> 
> One thing that comes to my mind is that the "userId"s might not be 100% 
> identical (same hashCode/equals method) because otherwise they would be 
> properly grouped.
> 
> Regards,
> Timo
> 
> Am 12.07.18 um 09:35 schrieb Yuan,Youjun:
> Hi community,
>  
> I have a job which counts event number every 2 minutes, with TumblingWindow 
> in ProcessingTime. However, it occasionally produces extra DUPLICATED 
> records. For instance, for timestamp 1531368480000 below, it emits a normal 
> result (cnt=1641161), and then followed by a few more records with very small 
> result (2, 3, etc).
>  
> Can anyone shed some light on the possible reason, or how to fix it?
>  
> Below are the sample output.
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> {"timestamp":1531368240000,"cnt":1537821,"userId":"user01"}
> {"timestamp":1531368360000,"cnt":1521464,"userId":"user01"}
> {"timestamp":1531368480000,"cnt":1641161,"userId":"user01"}
> {"timestamp":1531368480000,"cnt":2,"userId":"user01"}
> {"timestamp":1531368480000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01"}
> {"timestamp":1531368480000,"cnt":3,"userId":"user01"}
>  
> And here is the job SQL:
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> INSERT INTO sink
> SELECT
>                 TUMBLE_START(rowtime, INTERVAL '2' MINUTE) AS `timestamp`,
>                 count(vehicleId) AS cnt,
>                 userId
> FROM source
>                 GROUP BY TUMBLE(rowtime, INTERVAL '2' MINUTE),
>                 userId
>  
> Thanks,
> Youjun Yuan

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