Thanks a lot for your support, Marcus - that is useful beyond all
recognition!;-) And I will try #6621 right away.

Sincerely, Andrei.

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Marcus Eriksson <krum...@gmail.com> wrote:
> you should stick to as small nodes as possible yes :)
>
> There are a few relevant tickets related to bootstrap and LCS:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-6621 - startup with
> -Dcassandra.disable_stcs_in_l0=true to not do STCS in L0
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-7460 - (3.0) send source
> sstable level when bootstrapping
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Andrei Ivanov <aiva...@iponweb.net> wrote:
>>
>> OK, got it.
>>
>> Actually, my problem is not that we constantly having many files at
>> L0. Normally, quite a few of them - that is, nodes are managing to
>> compact incoming writes in a timely manner.
>>
>> But it looks like when we join a new node, it receives tons of files
>> from existing nodes (and they end up at L0, right?) and that seems to
>> be where our problems start. In practice, in what I call the "old"
>> cluster, compaction became a problem at ~2TB nodes. (You, know, we are
>> trying to save something on HW - we are running on EC2 with EBS
>> volumes)
>>
>> Do I get it right that, we better stick to cmaller nodes?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Marcus Eriksson <krum...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > No, they will get compacted into smaller sstables in L1+ eventually
>> > (once
>> > you have less than 32 sstables in L0, an ordinary L0 -> L1 compaction
>> > will
>> > happen)
>> >
>> > But, if you consistently get many files in L0 it means that compaction
>> > is
>> > not keeping up with your inserts and you should probably expand your
>> > cluster
>> > (or consider going back to SizeTieredCompactionStrategy for the tables
>> > that
>> > take that many writes)
>> >
>> > /Marcus
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Andrei Ivanov <aiva...@iponweb.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Marcus, thanks a lot! It explains a lot those huge tables are indeed at
>> >> L0.
>> >>
>> >> It seems that they start to appear as a result of some "massive"
>> >> operations (join, repair, rebuild). What's their fate in the future?
>> >> Will they continue to propagate like this through levels? Is there
>> >> anything that can be done to avoid/solve/prevent this?
>> >>
>> >> My fears here are around a feeling that those big tables (like in my
>> >> "old" cluster) will be hardly compactable in the future...
>> >>
>> >> Sincerely, Andrei.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Marcus Eriksson <krum...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I suspect they are getting size tiered in L0 - if you have too many
>> >> > sstables
>> >> > in L0, we will do size tiered compaction on sstables in L0 to improve
>> >> > performance
>> >> >
>> >> > Use tools/bin/sstablemetadata to get the level for those sstables, if
>> >> > they
>> >> > are in L0, that is probably the reason.
>> >> >
>> >> > /Marcus
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Andrei Ivanov <aiva...@iponweb.net>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dear all,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have the following problem:
>> >> >> - C* 2.0.11
>> >> >> - LCS with default 160MB
>> >> >> - Compacted partition maximum bytes: 785939 (for cf/table xxx.xxx)
>> >> >> - Compacted partition mean bytes: 6750 (for cf/table xxx.xxx)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would expect the sstables to be of +- maximum 160MB. Despite this
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> see files like:
>> >> >> 192M Nov 18 13:00 xxx-xxx-jb-15580-Data.db
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> 631M Nov 18 13:03 xxx-xxx-jb-15583-Data.db
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Am I missing something? What could be the reason? (Actually this is
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> "fresh" cluster - on an "old" one I'm seeing 500GB sstables). I'm
>> >> >> getting really desperate in my attempt to understand what's going
>> >> >> on.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks in advance Andrei.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>
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