you should stick to as small nodes as possible yes :)

There are a few relevant tickets related to bootstrap and LCS:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-6621 - startup
with -Dcassandra.disable_stcs_in_l0=true to not do STCS in L0
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-7460 - (3.0) send source
sstable level when bootstrapping

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Andrei Ivanov <aiva...@iponweb.net> wrote:

> OK, got it.
>
> Actually, my problem is not that we constantly having many files at
> L0. Normally, quite a few of them - that is, nodes are managing to
> compact incoming writes in a timely manner.
>
> But it looks like when we join a new node, it receives tons of files
> from existing nodes (and they end up at L0, right?) and that seems to
> be where our problems start. In practice, in what I call the "old"
> cluster, compaction became a problem at ~2TB nodes. (You, know, we are
> trying to save something on HW - we are running on EC2 with EBS
> volumes)
>
> Do I get it right that, we better stick to cmaller nodes?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Marcus Eriksson <krum...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > No, they will get compacted into smaller sstables in L1+ eventually (once
> > you have less than 32 sstables in L0, an ordinary L0 -> L1 compaction
> will
> > happen)
> >
> > But, if you consistently get many files in L0 it means that compaction is
> > not keeping up with your inserts and you should probably expand your
> cluster
> > (or consider going back to SizeTieredCompactionStrategy for the tables
> that
> > take that many writes)
> >
> > /Marcus
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Andrei Ivanov <aiva...@iponweb.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Marcus, thanks a lot! It explains a lot those huge tables are indeed at
> >> L0.
> >>
> >> It seems that they start to appear as a result of some "massive"
> >> operations (join, repair, rebuild). What's their fate in the future?
> >> Will they continue to propagate like this through levels? Is there
> >> anything that can be done to avoid/solve/prevent this?
> >>
> >> My fears here are around a feeling that those big tables (like in my
> >> "old" cluster) will be hardly compactable in the future...
> >>
> >> Sincerely, Andrei.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Marcus Eriksson <krum...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > I suspect they are getting size tiered in L0 - if you have too many
> >> > sstables
> >> > in L0, we will do size tiered compaction on sstables in L0 to improve
> >> > performance
> >> >
> >> > Use tools/bin/sstablemetadata to get the level for those sstables, if
> >> > they
> >> > are in L0, that is probably the reason.
> >> >
> >> > /Marcus
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Andrei Ivanov <aiva...@iponweb.net>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear all,
> >> >>
> >> >> I have the following problem:
> >> >> - C* 2.0.11
> >> >> - LCS with default 160MB
> >> >> - Compacted partition maximum bytes: 785939 (for cf/table xxx.xxx)
> >> >> - Compacted partition mean bytes: 6750 (for cf/table xxx.xxx)
> >> >>
> >> >> I would expect the sstables to be of +- maximum 160MB. Despite this I
> >> >> see files like:
> >> >> 192M Nov 18 13:00 xxx-xxx-jb-15580-Data.db
> >> >> or
> >> >> 631M Nov 18 13:03 xxx-xxx-jb-15583-Data.db
> >> >>
> >> >> Am I missing something? What could be the reason? (Actually this is a
> >> >> "fresh" cluster - on an "old" one I'm seeing 500GB sstables). I'm
> >> >> getting really desperate in my attempt to understand what's going on.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks in advance Andrei.
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
>

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