Some updates: 
Since we still have not fully turned on the system. We did something crazy 
today. We tried to treat the node as dead one. (My boss wants us to practice 
replacing a dead node before going to full production) and boot strap it. Here 
is what we did: 


    * drain the node 
    * check nodetool on other nodes, and this node is marked down (the token 
for this node is 100) 
    * clear the data, commit log, saved cache 
    * change initial_token from 100 to 99 in the yaml file 
    * start the node 
    * check nodetool, the down node of 100 disappeared by itself (!!) and new 
node with token 99 showed up 
    * checked log, see the message saying bootstrap completed. But only a 
couple of MB streamed. 
    * nodetool movetoken 98 
    * nodetool, see the node with token 98 comes up. 
    * check log, s ee the message saying bootstrap completed. But still only a 
couple of MB streamed. 

The only reason I can think of is that the new node has the same IP as the 
"dead" node we tried to replace? Will that cause the symptom of no data 
streamed from other nodes? Other nodes still think the node had all the data? 

We had to do nodetool repair -pr to bring in the data. After 3 hours, 150G 
transferred. And no surprise, pending compaction tasks are now at 30K. There 
are about 30K SStable transferred and I guess all of them needs to be compacted 
since we use LCS. 

My concern is that if we did nothing wrong, replacing a dead node will cause 
such a hugh back log of pending compaction. It might take a week to clear that 
off. And we have RF = 3, we still need to bring in the data for the other two 
replicates since we use "pr" for nodetool repair. It will take about 3 weeks to 
fully replace a 200G node using LCS? We tried everything we can to speed up the 
compaction and no luck. The only thing I can think of is to increase the 
default size of SSTable, so less number of compaction will be needed. Can I 
just change it in yaml and restart C* and it will correct itself? Any side 
effect? Since we are using SSD, a bit bigger SSD won't slow down the read too 
much, I suppose that is the main concern for bigger size of SSTable? 

I think 1.2 comes with parallel LC which should help the situation. But we are 
not going to upgrade for a little while. 

Did I miss anything? It might not be practical to use LCS for 200G node? But if 
we use Sized compaction, we need to have at least 400G for the HD...Although 
SSD is cheap now, still hard to convince the management. three replicates + 
double the Disk for compaction? that is 6 times of the real data size! 

Sorry for the long email. Any suggestion or advice? 

Thanks. 
-Wei 

----- Original Message -----

From: "aaron morton" <aa...@thelastpickle.com> 
To: "Cassandra User" <user@cassandra.apache.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:59:42 PM 
Subject: Re: Cassandra pending compaction tasks keeps increasing 



* Will try it tomorrow. Do I need to restart server to change the log level? 


You can set it via JMX, and supposedly log4j is configured to watch the config 
file. 


Cheers 








----------------- 
Aaron Morton 
Freelance Cassandra Developer 
New Zealand 


@aaronmorton 
http://www.thelastpickle.com 


On 29/01/2013, at 9:36 PM, Wei Zhu < wz1...@yahoo.com > wrote: 

<blockquote>
Thanks for the reply. Here is some information: 

Do you have wide rows ? Are you seeing logging about "Compacting wide rows" ? 

* I don't see any log about "wide rows" 

Are you seeing GC activity logged or seeing CPU steal on a VM ? 

* There is some GC, but CPU general is under 20%. We have heap size of 8G, RAM 
is at 72G. 

Have you tried disabling multithreaded_compaction ? 

* By default, it's disabled. We enabled it, but doesn't see much difference. 
Even a little slower with it's enabled. Is it bad to enable it? We have SSD, 
according to comment in yaml, it should help while using SSD. 

Are you using Key Caches ? Have you tried disabling 
compaction_preheat_key_cache? 

* We have fairly big Key caches, we set as 10% of Heap which is 800M. Yes, 
compaction_preheat_key_cache is disabled. 

Can you enabled DEBUG level logging and make them available ? 

* Will try it tomorrow. Do I need to restart server to change the log level? 


-Wei 

----- Original Message -----

From: "aaron morton" < aa...@thelastpickle.com > 
To: user@cassandra.apache.org 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:31:42 PM 
Subject: Re: Cassandra pending compaction tasks keeps increasing 







* Why nodetool repair increases the data size that much? It's not likely that 
much data needs to be repaired. Will that happen for all the subsequent repair? 
Repair only detects differences in entire rows. If you have very wide rows then 
small differences in rows can result in a large amount of streaming. 
Streaming creates new SSTables on the receiving side, which then need to be 
compacted. So repair often results in compaction doing it's thing for a while. 








* How to make LCS run faster? After almost a day, the LCS tasks only dropped by 
1000. I am afraid it will never catch up. We set 


This is going to be tricky to diagnose, sorry for asking silly questions... 


Do you have wide rows ? Are you seeing logging about "Compacting wide rows" ? 
Are you seeing GC activity logged or seeing CPU steal on a VM ? 
Have you tried disabling multithreaded_compaction ? 
Are you using Key Caches ? Have you tried disabling 
compaction_preheat_key_cache? 
Can you enabled DEBUG level logging and make them available ? 


Cheers 








----------------- 
Aaron Morton 
Freelance Cassandra Developer 
New Zealand 


@aaronmorton 
http://www.thelastpickle.com 


On 29/01/2013, at 8:59 AM, Derek Williams < de...@fyrie.net > wrote: 



I could be wrong about this, but when repair is run, it isn't just values that 
are streamed between nodes, it's entire sstables. This causes a lot of 
duplicate data to be written which was already correct on the node, which needs 
to be compacted away. 


As for speeding it up, no idea. 



On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Wei Zhu < wz1...@yahoo.com > wrote: 


Any thoughts? 


Thanks. 
-Wei 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Wei Zhu" < wz1...@yahoo.com > 
To: user@cassandra.apache.org 

Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:09:37 PM 
Subject: Re: Cassandra pending compaction tasks keeps increasing 



To recap the problem, 
1.1.6 on SSD, 5 nodes, RF = 3, one CF only. 
After data load, initially all 5 nodes have very even data size (135G, each). I 
ran nodetool repair -pr on node 1 which have replicates on node 2, node 3 since 
we set RF = 3. 
It appears that huge amount of data got transferred. Node 1 has 220G, node 2, 3 
have around 170G. Pending LCS task on node 1 is 15K and node 2, 3 have around 
7K each. 
Questions: 

* Why nodetool repair increases the data size that much? It's not likely that 
much data needs to be repaired. Will that happen for all the subsequent repair? 
* How to make LCS run faster? After almost a day, the LCS tasks only dropped by 
1000. I am afraid it will never catch up. We set 


* compaction_throughput_mb_per_sec = 500 
* multithreaded_compaction: true 



Both Disk and CPU util are less than 10%. I understand LCS is single threaded, 
any chance to speed it up? 


* We use default SSTable size as 5M, Will increase the size of SSTable help? 
What will happen if I change the setting after the data is loaded. 


Any suggestion is very much appreciated. 

-Wei 


----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Wei Zhu" < wz1...@yahoo.com > 
To: user@cassandra.apache.org 

Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:46:04 PM 
Subject: Re: Cassandra pending compaction tasks keeps increasing 

I believe I am running into this one: 

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-4765 

By the way, I am using 1.1.6 (I though I was using 1.1.7) and this one is fixed 
in 1.1.7. 



----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Wei Zhu" < wz1...@yahoo.com > 
To: user@cassandra.apache.org 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:18:59 PM 
Subject: Re: Cassandra pending compaction tasks keeps increasing 

Thanks Derek, 
in the cassandra-env.sh, it says 

# reduce the per-thread stack size to minimize the impact of Thrift 
# thread-per-client. (Best practice is for client connections to 
# be pooled anyway.) Only do so on Linux where it is known to be 
# supported. 
# u34 and greater need 180k 
JVM_OPTS="$JVM_OPTS -Xss180k" 

What value should I use? Java defaults at 400K? Maybe try that first. 

Thanks. 
-Wei 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Derek Williams" < de...@fyrie.net > 
To: user@cassandra.apache.org , "Wei Zhu" < wz1...@yahoo.com > 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:06:00 PM 
Subject: Re: Cassandra pending compaction tasks keeps increasing 


Increasing the stack size in cassandra-env.sh should help you get past the 
stack overflow. Doesn't help with your original problem though. 



On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Wei Zhu < wz1...@yahoo.com > wrote: 


Well, even after restart, it throws the the same exception. I am basically 
stuck. Any suggestion to clear the pending compaction tasks? Below is the end 
of stack trace: 

at com.google.common.collect.Sets$1.iterator(Sets.java:578) 
at com.google.common.collect.Sets$1.iterator(Sets.java:578) 
at com.google.common.collect.Sets$1.iterator(Sets.java:578) 
at com.google.common.collect.Sets$1.iterator(Sets.java:578) 
at com.google.common.collect.Sets$3.iterator(Sets.java:667) 
at com.google.common.collect.Sets$3.size(Sets.java:670) 
at com.google.common.collect.Iterables.size(Iterables.java:80) 
at org.apache.cassandra.db.DataTracker.buildIntervalTree(DataTracker.java:557) 
at 
org.apache.cassandra.db.compaction.CompactionController.<init>(CompactionController.java:69)
 
at 
org.apache.cassandra.db.compaction.CompactionTask.execute(CompactionTask.java:105)
 
at 
org.apache.cassandra.db.compaction.LeveledCompactionTask.execute(LeveledCompactionTask.java:50)
 
at 
org.apache.cassandra.db.compaction.CompactionManager$1.runMayThrow(CompactionManager.java:154)
 
at org.apache.cassandra.utils.WrappedRunnable.run(WrappedRunnable.java:30) 
at java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Unknown Source) 
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(Unknown Source) 
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(Unknown Source) 
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.runTask(Unknown Source) 
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(Unknown Source) 
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) 

Any suggestion is very much appreciated 

-Wei 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wei Zhu" < wz1...@yahoo.com > 
To: user@cassandra.apache.org 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:55:07 PM 
Subject: Re: Cassandra pending compaction tasks keeps increasing 

Do you mean 90% of the reads should come from 1 SSTable? 

By the way, after I finished the data migrating, I ran nodetool repair -pr on 
one of the nodes. Before nodetool repair, all the nodes have the same disk 
space usage. After I ran the nodetool repair, the disk space for that node 
jumped from 135G to 220G, also there are more than 15000 pending compaction 
tasks. After a while , Cassandra started to throw the exception like below and 
stop compacting. I had to restart the node. By the way, we are using 1.1.7. 
Something doesn't seem right. 


INFO [CompactionExecutor:108804] 2013-01-24 22:23:10,427 CompactionTask.java 
(line 109) Compacting 
[SSTableReader(path='/ssd/cassandra/data/zoosk/friends/zoosk-friends-hf-753782-Data.db')]
 
INFO [CompactionExecutor:108804] 2013-01-24 22:23:11,610 CompactionTask.java 
(line 221) Compacted to 
[/ssd/cassandra/data/zoosk/friends/zoosk-friends-hf-754996-Data.db,]. 5,259,403 
to 5,259,403 (~100% of original) bytes for 1,983 keys at 4.268730MB/s. Time: 
1,175ms. 
INFO [CompactionExecutor:108805] 2013-01-24 22:23:11,617 CompactionTask.java 
(line 109) Compacting 
[SSTableReader(path='/ssd/cassandra/data/zoosk/friends/zoosk-friends-hf-754880-Data.db')]
 
INFO [CompactionExecutor:108805] 2013-01-24 22:23:12,828 CompactionTask.java 
(line 221) Compacted to 
[/ssd/cassandra/data/zoosk/friends/zoosk-friends-hf-754997-Data.db,]. 5,272,746 
to 5,272,746 (~100% of original) bytes for 1,941 keys at 4.152339MB/s. Time: 
1,211ms. 
ERROR [CompactionExecutor:108806] 2013-01-24 22:23:13,048 
AbstractCassandraDaemon.java (line 135) Exception in thread 
Thread[CompactionExecutor:108806,1,main] 
java.lang.StackOverflowError 
at java.util.AbstractList$Itr.hasNext(Unknown Source) 
at com.google.common.collect.Iterators$5.hasNext(Iterators.java:517) 
at com.google.common.collect.Iterators$3.hasNext(Iterators.java:114) 
at com.google.common.collect.Iterators$5.hasNext(Iterators.java:517) 
at com.google.common.collect.Iterators$3.hasNext(Iterators.java:114) 
at com.google.common.collect.Iterators$5.hasNext(Iterators.java:517) 
at com.google.common.collect.Iterators$3.hasNext(Iterators.java:114) 
at com.google.common.collect.Iterators$5.hasNext(Iterators.java:517) 
at com.google.common.collect.Iterators$3.hasNext(Iterators.java:114) 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "aaron morton" < aa...@thelastpickle.com > 
To: user@cassandra.apache.org 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 2:40:45 PM 
Subject: Re: Cassandra pending compaction tasks keeps increasing 

The histogram does not look right to me, too many SSTables for an LCS CF. 


It's a symptom no a cause. If LCS is catching up though it should be more like 
the distribution in the linked article. 


Cheers 








----------------- 
Aaron Morton 
Freelance Cassandra Developer 
New Zealand 


@aaronmorton 
http://www.thelastpickle.com 


On 23/01/2013, at 10:57 AM, Jim Cistaro < jcist...@netflix.com > wrote: 




What version are you using? Are you seeing any compaction related assertions in 
the logs? 


Might be https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-4411 


We experienced this problem of the count only decreasing to a certain number 
and then stopping. If you are idle, it should go to 0. I have not seen it 
overestimate for zero, only for non-zero amounts. 


As for timeouts etc, you will need to look at things like nodetool tpstats to 
see if you have pending transactions queueing up. 


Jc 


From: Wei Zhu < wz1...@yahoo.com > 
Reply-To: " user@cassandra.apache.org " < user@cassandra.apache.org >, Wei Zhu 
< wz1...@yahoo.com > 
Date: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:56 PM 
To: " user@cassandra.apache.org " < user@cassandra.apache.org > 
Subject: Re: Cassandra pending compaction tasks keeps increasing 






Thanks Aaron and Jim for your reply. The data import is done. We have about 
135G on each node and it's about 28K SStables. For normal operation, we only 
have about 90 writes per seconds, but when I ran nodetool compationstats, it 
remains at 9 and hardly changes. I guess it's just an estimated number. 


When I ran histogram, 



Offset SSTables Write Latency Read Latency Row Size Column Count 
1 2644 0 0 0 18660057 
2 8204 0 0 0 9824270 
3 11198 0 0 0 6968475 
4 4269 6 0 0 5510745 
5 517 29 0 0 4595205 




You can see about half of the reads result in 3 SSTables. Majority of read 
latency are under 5ms, only a dozen are over 10ms. We haven't fully turn on 
reads yet, only 60 reads per second. We see about 20 read timeout during the 
past 12 hours. Not a single warning from Cassandra Log. 


Is it normal for Cassandra to timeout some requests? We set rpc timeout to be 
1s, it shouldn't time out any of them? 


Thanks. 
-Wei 





From: aaron morton < aa...@thelastpickle.com > 
To: user@cassandra.apache.org 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 12:21 AM 
Subject: Re: Cassandra pending compaction tasks keeps increasing 



The main guarantee LCS gives you is that most reads will only touch 1 row 
http://www.datastax.com/dev/blog/when-to-use-leveled-compaction 


If compaction is falling behind this may not hold. 


nodetool cfhistograms tells you how many SSTables were read from for reads. 
It's a recent histogram that resets each time you read from it. 


Also, parallel levelled compaction in 1.2 
http://www.datastax.com/dev/blog/performance-improvements-in-cassandra-1-2 


Cheers 








----------------- 
Aaron Morton 
Freelance Cassandra Developer 
New Zealand 


@aaronmorton 
http://www.thelastpickle.com 


On 20/01/2013, at 7:49 AM, Jim Cistaro < jcist...@netflix.com > wrote: 





1) In addition to iostat, dstat is a good tool to see wht kind of disck 
throuput your are getting. That would be one thing to monitor. 
2) For LCS, we also see pending compactions skyrocket. During load, LCS will 
create a lot of small sstables which will queue up for compaction. 
3) For us the biggest concern is not how high the pending count gets, but how 
often it gets back down near zero. If your load is something you can do in 
segments or pause, then you can see how fast the cluster recovers on the 
compactions. 
4) One thing which we tune per cluster is the size of the files. Increasing 
this from 5MB can sometimes improve things. But I forget if we have ever 
changed this after starting data load. 


Is your cluster receiving read traffic during this data migration? If so, I 
would say that read latency is your best measure. If the high number of 
SSTables waiting to compact is not hurting your reads, then you are probably 
ok. Since you are on SSD, there is a good chance the compactions are not 
hurting you. As for compactionthroughput, we set ours high for SSD. You usually 
wont use it all because the compactions are usually single threaded. Dstat will 
help you measure this. 


I hope this helps, 
jc 


From: Wei Zhu < wz1...@yahoo.com > 
Reply-To: " user@cassandra.apache.org " < user@cassandra.apache.org >, Wei Zhu 
< wz1...@yahoo.com > 
Date: Friday, January 18, 2013 12:10 PM 
To: Cassandr usergroup < user@cassandra.apache.org > 
Subject: Cassandra pending compaction tasks keeps increasing 






Hi, 
When I run nodetool compactionstats 


I see the number of pending tasks keep going up steadily. 


I tried to increase the compactionthroughput, by using 


nodetool setcompactionthroughput 


I even tried the extreme to set it to 0 to disable the throttling. 


I checked iostats and we have SSD for data, the disk util is less than 5% which 
means it's not I/O bound, CPU is also less than 10% 


We are using levelcompaction and in the process of migrating data. We have 4500 
writes per second and very few reads. We have about 70G data now and will grow 
to 150G when the migration finishes. We only have one CF and right now the 
number of SSTable is around 15000, write latency is still under 0.1ms. 


Anything needs to be concerned? Or anything I can do to reduce the number of 
pending compaction? 


Thanks. 
-Wei 













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