Thanks, Richmond, this makes some sense.

How then, would I encode fields as unicode so they display reliably?

Peter

On Aug 20, 2013, at 3:42 AM, Richmond wrote:

> On 08/20/2013 01:51 AM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> The music history e-book we've been working on for the last couple of years 
>> has gotten to the point of having some people in China now translate large 
>> parts of it to Chinese. However when they open the compiled version on their 
>> Windows machines they see funny characters wherever we use an HTML entity in 
>> the HTMLtext of fields. Em dash, double quotation marks, accents, etc., all 
>> show this.
>> 
>> In our classroom use of it, Chinese students at UCLA don't complain about 
>> this problem. I don't know much about system settings in Windows, but I see 
>> Chinese characters in the system settings for some of the UCLA students whom 
>> I have to do other kinds of tech support.
>> 
>> What could be different about the Windows systems in Shanghai--at least two 
>> different people report the same issue?
> 
> Well the first thing is to reflect on the fact that, rather like the 2 Koreas 
> there are 2 Chinas: The People's Republic of China and the Republic of China 
> (a.k.a. Taiwan), and they have no great love for one another. Now they have 
> both developed their own ways of representing Chinese on computers . . .
> 
> Mainland China uses the Guobiao encoding system (1,2 or 4 byte).
> 
> Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau use Big5 (1 or 2 byte)
> 
> There is also the Unicode method . . .
> and here's a groovy phrase I found trawling around on the Merry Internet: 
> "The conversion between traditional and simplified Chinese is usually 
> problematic" . . . Hey Nonny Nonny Nonny Nooooooooooo.
> 
> Now I don't what version of Windows all these Chinese speaking people might 
> be using, but Windows has
> a history of multiple encoding strategies that is like a minefield.
> 
> Sorry to be such a damp squish.
> 
> Richmond.
> 
> P.S. You will probably be best going for Unicode encoding as this seems to 
> work (on the whole) on any version
> of Windows from XP onwards.
> 
>> These people are grad music students, not computer nerds, so I don't have 
>> much to go on. I had them install the Georgia and Helvetica fonts, which are 
>> all we use, and probably what they had to begin with.
>> 
>> I also had to strip out all those characters in the version I finally sent 
>> them to translate so they could work. We want to sell the program there 
>> eventually--there's a large market there for Western music education, so 
>> this worries me.
>> 
>> Any suggestions?
>> 
>> Peter Bogdanoff
>> UCLA
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