Alex: When I first got involved with Revolution I had hoped that it would just be an up-todate HC; but, alas, it began to get too complicated for the average hobbyist, so many of the HC users just never came aboard. I don't blame them. I was very close to being one who didn't myself. Over the years I have done some pretty remarkable things with HC. I really neither needed nor wanted the extensions that eventually became LiveCode. I believe that a totally bug-free Revolution 1.x could have become a major hit with all of the educators, and wouldn't have had to be so costly. Do I hear a few Amens?
Joe Wilkins On Oct 17, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: > Hi Joe and Jim, > > Joe, many thanks for your kind words! > I always hope that my scripting experiments > would do more good than harm and at least > should be useful to show the Do's and Don'ts > on the specific topics that I worked with. > > > James Hurley wrote: >> >> [snip] >> Kevin and I discussed the possibility of implementing it as part of Run >> Rev. >> They were more interesting in education at the time. >> > > Yes, I hope to see more Livecode and LOGO teaching > in the future. In LOGO, the teacher is fundamental to > produce extraordinary results. > The greatest teaching ideas are widely celebrated and > quickly forgotten... almost like a ritual. > In my eyes, the longer I look into the Education field > this become more and more paradoxical. Almost like a > Lewis Carroll tale, with the complete cast of characters. > > I am sure that Livecode is a resounding sucess when used > to teach Introduction to Computer Programming. > At least for me, this computer language provided the > confidence to try many ideas that I would not even dare to. > Yes, this computer language inspire confidence. > Does every computer language instill this > in their users/developers? > > Why Livecode teaching is not more extended, as expected, > in the English speaking world? My best guess is that > everyone that look at Livecode, believe that it's a > neat idea... and their next question is: > Is this endorsed, recommended and approved by the > powers that be in education??? > This is exactly the moment where you understand > that more and more people in the education field > are not, and do not pretend to be leaders, but followers... > > Sad, but true... > > > James Hurley wrote: >> >> I'm not sure where that file you found came from, but it is not very >> readable. >> I have a clean version I will send you separately. Do not share it with >> others >> at this time. I have retitled (and did some rewriting of) the Logo >> Physics book >> to "Programming for Science Students." I think that is the appropriate >> market >> --if one exists at all. >> > > Received. Many Thanks! :-) > > > James Hurley wrote: >> >> [snip] >> Unfortunately I am out of touch with this market now and so have >> nothing for you about current applications, if any. Trouble is perception. >> It is perceived as a tool for children, a perception quickly dispelled in >> Turtle Geometry by Abelson and diSessa. The last chapter is titled: >> Curved Geometry and General Relativity. >> > > Interesting enough, in this page: > http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&tid=7287 > there is a surprising error: > Hal Abelson is Class of 1922 Professor of Computer Science and > Engineering at Massachusetts Institute of Technology > > Class of 1922!!! Extraordinary, to say the least. :-) > > By the way, your stack: > http://jamesphurley.com/jhurleyFolder/NineBallWithSpin.rev > is the only game that I play with some frecuency. > > Thanks again, Jim _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
