Thanks for voicing my thoughts exactly, Bob! Roger
> On Jul 25, 2024, at 9:55 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > It’s water under the bridge, but in retrospect I think the proper way for > Livecode to have structured their business was to have 3 products: Livecode > Desktop, Livecode Mobile and Livecode Web. Each product should have > maintained their own revenue stream unbound and unburdened by the other two. > As it is, any financial burden developing for Mobile or Web is shared by > Desktop. If one fails, all fail. > > I also think that the Non-Commercial version we used to have (as much as I > took advantage of it) was a bad idea. Give people something for free that > they would otherwise have to pay for, guess what? They will use the free > thing. > > Finally, I think that Livecode, much like Now Software of the past, > overextended themselves. Now Software tried to develop a new product from the > ground up and learned what all developers learn: It’s REALLY HARD to do. > > Livecode attempted to incorporate what I would consider to be niche > technologies, so their resources have become much diluted. The native > compiler project is dead I assume. Mobile is probably sucking resources from > other things because it seems like every other week iOS or Android are making > prior builds obsolete by their incessant changes. V10 has taken how many > years to produce? Don’t get me started on Artificial Intelligence!! And I > don’t NEED a no-code way to develop apps. I LIKE CODING!! > > All I ever wanted was to create utility apps to make my life and my job > easier. That is it. I don’t need the bells and whistles, but I have been > investing in those all these years just to keep desktop deveopment alive. Now > I will not be able to afford developing for just the 3 internal users I have, > and approaching my employer to incorporate my applipaction throughout the > company is dead in the water. Thank GOD I didn’t already do so! > > So by whenever in 2027 this awesome party ends, I will likely bid farewell to > you all and consider abandoning my development hobby completely. It feels > like I have been given 2 years to live. > > Bob S > > > On Jul 25, 2024, at 9:30 AM, William Prothero via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > I second Graham's comment about apple's requirements for getting an app to > work on the iphone are a huge pita. > Bill > William A. Prothero, PhD > Prof Emeritus, Dept of Earth Science > University of California, Santa Barbara > > On Jul 25, 2024, at 7:31 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com<mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: > > I’m in roughly the same position as Bill. Long ago I wrote Livecode apps for > sale, but in the last several years I’ve just written a few personal apps, > and have more or less stopped work, due mostly to old age. However I don’t > like to say I’ve entirely given up as a hobbyist, and I was thinking of > revisiting an app idea I had at the time of the pandemic - so I’m glad of > Kevin’s reply. > > At present I’m thinking about iOS apps and wonder how much help from Create I > will get for deployment - obeying all of Apple’s rules for the publication > of an app (even a free one) into the public space. For me this part of app > development proved far more of a PITA than the actual coding, and I know I > will always need all the help I can get on this aspect. Maybe I missed it, > but I am not clear what Create will offer. > > My other use of Livecode scripting has been to use it as “IYSWIM” (“if you > see what I mean”) modelling tool, where I get the logic straight before > plunging into a relatively hostile coding environment (think the Apple Watch, > which will never be covered by Livecode in any form). As far as I can see, I > will be able to go on using versions of Classic for this, even if the become > outdated over time. I’m glad about this. > > Best > > Graham > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
