I second Graham's comment about apple's requirements for getting an app to work 
on the iphone are a huge pita.
Bill
William A. Prothero, PhD
Prof Emeritus, Dept of Earth Science
University of California, Santa Barbara

> On Jul 25, 2024, at 7:31 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> I’m in roughly the same position as Bill. Long ago I wrote Livecode apps for 
> sale,  but in the last several years I’ve just written a few personal apps, 
> and have more or less stopped work, due mostly to old age. However I don’t 
> like to say I’ve entirely given up as a hobbyist, and I was thinking of 
> revisiting an app idea I had at the time of the pandemic - so I’m glad of 
> Kevin’s reply.
> 
> At present I’m thinking about iOS apps and wonder how much help from Create I 
> will get for deployment  - obeying all of Apple’s rules for the publication 
> of an app (even a free one) into the public space. For me this part of app 
> development proved far more of a PITA than the actual coding, and I know I 
> will always need all the help I can get on this aspect. Maybe I missed it, 
> but I am not clear what Create will offer.
> 
> My other use of Livecode scripting has been to use it as “IYSWIM” (“if you 
> see what I mean”) modelling tool, where I get the logic straight before 
> plunging into a relatively hostile coding environment (think the Apple Watch, 
> which will never be covered by Livecode in any form). As far as I can see, I 
> will be able to go on using versions of Classic for this, even if the become 
> outdated over time. I’m glad about this.
> 
> Best
> 
> Graham
> 
>> On 24 Jul 2024, at 17:53, Kevin Miller via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Free apps remain free. Just buy one seat of either Native/Cloud or Universal 
>> depending on what platforms you want to deploy to. In your scenario, if you 
>> happen to be doing multiple platform development / deployment, it is cheaper.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Kevin
>> 
>> Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com <mailto:ke...@livecode.com> ~ 
>> http://www.livecode.com/
>> LiveCode: Build Amazing Things
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 24/07/2024, 17:46, "use-livecode on behalf of William Prothero via 
>> use-livecode" <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com 
>> <mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com> 
>> <mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com> on behalf of 
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the link.
>> I have used livecode for years and since retiring, I only create 
>> educational, public service apps that I give away, or personal use apps that 
>> I use to manage my own needs. In the "Buy Create" page, I don't see any 
>> choice that reflects my own situation. Recently, I've spent a lot of time 
>> with WordPress, building web sites to support groups that interest me. I'm 
>> interested in the practicality of using livecode for websites, but the 
>> limitations of the past were more than I could accept.
>> 
>> 
>> So, is there still a place in the livecode community for a retired innovator 
>> with no commercial interests? I'm a hobbyist.
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> William A. Prothero, PhD
>> Prof Emeritus, Dept of Earth Science
>> University of California, Santa Barbara
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