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> On Sep 2, 2021, at 15:20 , Lagi Pittas via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Sorry it's worse than I thought.It's 10th generation with 4 cores and 8 > logical processors. > > Appleworks was blazingly fast on my 64K 1Mhz Apple 2 and so was Borland > Turbo Pascal on my Microsoft Z80 card on said machine - software is going > backwards speed wise. > > Lagi > > On Thu, 2 Sept 2021 at 23:00, Tom Glod via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Lagi, >> >> I wrote to Kevin earlier and gave the exact same advice. those exact 2 >> points needing to be addressed. >> >> Give long trial, fix the most obvious IDE issues ASAP. >> >> Without those two things how is any new developer going to join the >> platform? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 5:34 PM Lagi Pittas via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >>> Trials of 14 days or even 30 days are a waste of time. I can install >>> something and use it for a couple of days - then life / work gets in the >>> way >>> so It sits on the computer for 31 days and then times out. >>> >>> You then have to waste your time and the companies to get an extension, >>> and by the time they answer >>> you get cheesed off and remove the program. >>> >>> The BEST trial is the one that lasts for 30 actual executions or 6 months >>> (whichever comes first). >>> >>> This stops the clever SOD who decides to keep it running without exiting >>> for 6 months but it times out anyway. >>> Even better if he keeps it on for 2 days it counts as "executing" twice >> so >>> it will last 30 days. >>> >>> This means I have 30 days over a 6 month period to really test it without >>> rushing. >>> >>> The people who would game the system are the people who won't be loyal >>> customer anyway, so not giving a worthwhile trial period handicaps those >>> who want to give it a good try. >>> >>> You can also put a nag screen at the start of any executable with an OK >>> button link to a special discounted price - free marketing (what a >>> brilliant Idea, why didn't I think of it?). >>> >>> But the best way of selling it is to FIX the bloody IDE - I am running >> on a >>> 16G 1 year Old 8th Generation CoreI7 processor and it STILL runs like >>> treacle. >>> >>> If I downloaded it today as a new person it would be off my machine in >> less >>> than 30 minutes. >>> >>> You could also use this as your "marketing" system by "giving it away" >> to >>> schools for nothing and without the trial period but the nag screen. >>> >>> It can then be used by the students to learn programming at no cost - and >>> some of the students parent might pony up for a paid for version at a >>> student price (with no expiring standalones of cours - the most stupid >> idea >>> of the lot so far) >>> >>> >>> Anyway Kevin, have I/we wastedour time again putting out these cranky, >>> stupid and not workable suggestions?. >>> >>> Lagi >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 2 Sept 2021 at 15:55, Kevin Miller via use-livecode < >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>> >>>> We *are* considering the length of the trial actively, we may well >> give a >>>> longer trial a shot at some point. >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> Kevin >>>> >>>> Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ >>>> LiveCode: Develop Yourself >>>> >>>> On 02/09/2021, 15:51, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via >>>> use-livecode" <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of >>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> True, true. >>>> >>>> There could be a small group of programmers that pass a stack >> around >>>> but you would not be able to convince/teach a civilian to install a >>>> programming IDE and explain how to run the stack along with any other >>>> supporting files, SW or plug-ins... Mobile would be a non-starter. I >>> would >>>> not dismiss this out-of-hand. A 90 day free IDE could also be an >> option. >>>> >>>> Ralph DiMola >>>> IT Director >>>> Evergreen Information Services >>>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] >> On >>>> Behalf Of Kevin Miller via use-livecode >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2021 10:31 AM >>>> To: How to use LiveCode >>>> Cc: Kevin Miller; Michael Kristensen >>>> Subject: Re: Suggestion: Non-Appbuilding Community Edition >>>> >>>> Thanks for the constructive suggestion. Unfortunately with a free >>>> non-app building version, everyone who needs to run an app can just >>>> download that. >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> Kevin >>>> >>>> Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ >>>> LiveCode: Develop Yourself >>>> >>>> On 02/09/2021, 14:49, "use-livecode on behalf of Michael >> Kristensen >>>> via use-livecode" <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of >>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi there >>>> >>>> I suggest that there could be a Non-Appbuilding Community >> Edition >>>> >>>> That would be for personal use, and to learn coding. >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>> subscription preferences: >>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>> subscription preferences: >>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>> subscription preferences: >>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>> subscription preferences: >>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> KIndest Regards Lagi >>> _______________________________________________ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >> >> >> -- >> Tom Glod >> Founder & Developer >> MakeShyft R.D.A (www.makeshyft.com) >> Mobile:647.562.9411 >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > > -- > KIndest Regards Lagi > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
