Hello Good People,

First of all, happy holidays!

You gotta see ScreenToaster.com <http://www.screentoaster.com/> . It's a
Flash webapp that records your screen, audio, and webcam. Does it from a VNC
server too. This does a lot of things we want our app to do.

Allan

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Allan Caeg <allanc...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  On Tuesday, 22 December, 2009 10:58 AM, Leisa Reichelt wrote:
>
> yes, it just looks like an ordinary computer screen. There is a little icon
> in the top of screen that you can use to stop/pause Silverback but it's
> unobtrusive, up there with the date/time etc.
>
>  I know now! let's do it the way Istanbul and gtk-recordmydesktop do it.
> There's a panel icon that you click to start recording the session (
> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/35152/screenshot_031_yg2Pfb.png ). When
> it's started, it turns into
> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/35153/screenshot_032_g2P0s8.png .
>
> I have to say that, at times, I would like to have the ability to switch on
> an observe option in silverback - I am a big fan of getting stakeholders to
> observe testing live (although I tend to use silverback when I'm out the the
> field an observation is less practical). I have dreams of being about to
> stream the sessions live so that others can view them from their desk whilst
> I'm out researching wherever I like. There's more than software to worry
> about there tho!
>
>  That's a good feature to have. After all, the researcher can just choose
> to use it or not to use it. However, if it is technically hard to develop
> this feature, we can postpone this for later versions. If it's easy to
> implement, by all means, let's have it. It's just that, if all stakeholders
> have to pay attention to the testing while it's being done, it could be
> time-consuming for a lot of people because a session can involve a lot of
> pausing. After all, the quality of the video wouldn't improve if they watch
> it live. You can just email the video when it's done so they can watch it
> during their own time.
>
> agree re: visualising mouseclicks - this is useful and clients tend to like
> it a lot.
>
> re: controls for stopping/pausing the session - personally I don't tend to
> use the apple remote for these tasks, I just take control of the computer :)
> (the test is being disrupted for one reason or another so it doesn't tend to
> be a problem). What you *can* do with the remote in Silverback that is very
> useful is to be able to mark points of interest so you can go back and take
> clips from the video at a later date. This is a great timesaver, and I'd
> recommend that we try to work this in somehow. The advantage of using the
> remote to do this is that it is unobtrusive so you're not telling
> effectively telling the participant 'you're doing something very interesting
> now', but perhaps using an outlying key on the keyboard would be an
> acceptable alternative, given that we don't have the 'remote' option?
> (unless we can do something fancy with bluetooth + mobile phone... or that
> could be me dreaming again!)
>
>  As I mentioned, I think, it's best to have the little panel icon to record
> and stop :)
>
>  re: what we call them - I've always preferred 'participants'.
>
> Great! :)
>
>  ________________________
> Leisa Reichelt
> Disambiguity.com
> Freelance Contextual Research, User Centred Design & Social Design
>
> le...@disambiguity.com
> +44 778 071 2129
>
>
> 2009/12/22 Allan Caeg <allanc...@gmail.com>
>
>> Cool.
>>
>> How does the tester's screen look like while the testing session is
>> running? Does it look like an ordinary computer screen or is there any trace
>> of Silverback?
>>
>> Now, I think, an "observe" feature isn't needed. First of all, it would be
>> hard to implement. It's also hard to gather all stakeholders for them to
>> view testing sessions while it is running and if the tester finds out, that
>> would be awkward for him or her.
>>
>> I have new features in mind. I saw a morae session once. On playback, it
>> highlights where the mouse is. Silverback also shows if the tester clicks
>> the mouse. That would be a cool feature to have.
>>
>> We have to figure out how to control sessions, though. Without an observe
>> feature (where I think, we can control the running session), how are we
>> supposed to be able to pause and stop the session? Silverback does it with
>> an Apple remote. I think, it's best if we just settle with something much
>> simpler like having keyboard shortcuts for play, pause, and stop?
>>
>> Btw, let's just not call our testers "test subjects" like how Silverback
>> people call them. As a psych major, I was disturbed. Let's call them
>> "testers" or "participants" :D
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 22 December, 2009 10:15 AM, Leisa Reichelt wrote:
>>
>> oh look, here's one they prepared earlier :)
>> http://www.vimeo.com/1393885?pg=embed&sec=1393885
>>
>>  it's a little bit salesy but gives you a good walk through of the UI
>> ________________________
>> Leisa Reichelt
>> Disambiguity.com
>> Freelance Contextual Research, User Centred Design & Social Design
>>
>> le...@disambiguity.com
>> +44 778 071 2129
>>
>>
>> 2009/12/22 Allan Caeg <allanc...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> Hello Leisa!
>>>
>>> Thanks for the input. I'll be happy to see a screencast of that app. They
>>> may be a free trial, but I don't have a Mac to test it :)
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Allan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 22 December, 2009 10:05 AM, Leisa Reichelt wrote:
>>>
>>> hi guys
>>>
>>>  new to this list, so hope you don't mind me adding my 2c here - just
>>> wanted to check that you've taken a look at silverbackapp.com as a
>>> reference interface for this project. It doesn't have an observer mode, just
>>> runs usability test capture (screen capture + headshot) from a Mac, but has
>>> a fairly nice, simple admin UI - worth a look and I think you can get a 30
>>> day trial for free. If not, sing out and I'm happy to do a screencast of my
>>> installation.
>>>
>>>  hope that helps and good luck with this project - it's definitely
>>> needed!
>>>
>>>  Leisa
>>> ________________________
>>> Leisa Reichelt
>>> Disambiguity.com
>>> Freelance Contextual Research, User Centred Design & Social Design
>>>
>>> le...@disambiguity.com
>>> +44 778 071 2129
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/12/22 Allan Caeg <allanc...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Maybe, on the welcome screen, we can just use something like what I
>>>> proposed earlier ( http://i.imagehost.org/0753/welcome.png ) then when
>>>> the user selects the project he wants, he'll see all the sessions there.
>>>>
>>>> That would create less visual noise, because you wont see every session
>>>> from different projects on the welcome screen. After all, if you have a
>>>> session in mind, you know what project contains it. :)
>>>>
>>>> By the way, there's a GNOME 3 usability hackfest on feb 22-26. Ivanka is
>>>> going to be there too. I think, this project deserves some attention there.
>>>> After all, they're talking about Pongo there ;)
>>>>
>>>> Allan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, 21 December, 2009 02:38 PM, Natan Yellin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK. I was thinking that we could always show individual sessions and
>>>> just group them under project headings.
>>>>
>>>> Something like:
>>>> Recent Sessions:
>>>>   * Project 1
>>>>     - Session 1
>>>>     - Session 2
>>>>     - View All
>>>>
>>>>   * Project 2
>>>>     - Session 1
>>>>     - Session 2
>>>>     - View All
>>>>
>>>>   * View All Projects
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Allan Caeg <allanc...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good question.. I was thinking that it's going to be one project. A
>>>>> project is a group of related sessions. I just don't know if that's
>>>>> technically feasible. If it's not it's just going to be one session.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, 21 December, 2009 02:29 PM, Natan Yellin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know much about usability testing, so is each entry in "Recent
>>>>> Projects" a group of related sessions or just one session (e.g. one user)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Natan
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Allan Caeg <allanc...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Like this one? http://i.imagehost.org/0753/welcome.png :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Got the idea from Brasero
>>>>>> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/35029/screenshot_030_sw8XCE.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, 21 December, 2009 05:14 AM, Natan Yellin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whoops, I hit the send button too soon. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about an overview window with buttons like:
>>>>>> [View a past session] [Record a new session]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clicking on [Record a new session] would open up a window with some
>>>>>> default settings. The user would then click on a [Create Session] button
>>>>>> afterwhich the window would be the same as if it was opened with [Record 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> new Session]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Natan Yellin <aan...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What about an overview window with buttons like:
>>>>>>> [View a past session] [Record a new session]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After clicking on [Re
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 10:19 AM, James Moschou <
>>>>>>> james.mosc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > What app did you use to make this mockup? :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Gtk Builder/Glade
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also I agree that a wizard would not work. I just didn't want a
>>>>>>>> prepare/setup tab that would become useless once the recording has
>>>>>>>> started.
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