> As well as being simple for a basic user facilities that more > sophisticated users need must be provided. Next you will be > suggesting removing split screen and tree view from Nautilus. No-one > would ever suggest that. > The split view is not a feature in the main UI window of nautilus causing any average UX problems... I have nothing against the split view.
> > >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Gabriel Pettier > >> <gabriel.pett...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I would hate this too, even if you seldomly use it, doesn't need you > won't > >> find it infuriating that > it went away when you'll actually need it. > I'm > >> pretty sure people would hate to have them > >> removed. > > > > Yes, we need the sort functionality, but do we need this > one-click-buttons > > in the "front UI"? > > If you would have to go to the settings, or would have to right click to > > unlock and make the Sort-By buttons visible and editable, would that be > such > > a big loss? > > That is a different suggestion to your original idea, which was to > remove them completely. All I try to say is that we have a UX problem with the Sort-By buttons - I have no final solution for the problem. Move the action that is triggered by the Sort-By buttons to the preferences could be one solution. Moving it to the right click menu another. Or locking & unlocking the Sort-By button row. Or a single small button on the right of the Sort-By menu to change the sort pattern. No setting at all could be a solution too - a bad one - but it would work for 95% of the time... I have no final thought, just come up with something better/more suitable for average users. > How often are the buttons used? > > rarely > > Most days by me, for sorting columns in nautilus for example. It > would be painful to have to go to the preferences to change it. Often > I switch to date sorting to see which files have changed then back to > sorting by name. > If you use it that often, then maybe you would be okay with some shortcuts - like for switching the folder view in nautilus by pressing CTRL + [1-3]. "All" of my thoughts are base on the assumption that changing the sort pattern is a rare issue for average users - I could be wrong. How often is the change-sorting-action being used is the key question to find a good UX design. If its widely used by all user groups it should stay as it is. If its only often used by power users the action could be re-design. > How much space do they take? > > They use horizontally quite much space (horizontal space is really > valuable > > space) > > I don't see how they take space in nautilus, or do you think the > column headings are not necessary? They certainly do not take up any > horizontal space. > I think the information that is present in the Sort-By buttons is negligible most times (Nautilus & Thunderbird, but not in Rhythmbox). Looking at the file column tells me all I need to know (filename, size, type, date - its pretty easy to grasp and everyone who cares about the displayed information can distinguish them).
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