On 11 December 2012 20:55, Thibaut Brandscheid <randal...@web.de> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Josh Strawbridge > <holyknightjos...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> just because an application ships with ubuntu doesn't mean that ubuntu has >> anything to do with actually working on the program. > > I'm aware about that. The reason why I post it here is because I think it's > an general UX design problem. > >> personally, i'm against the idea. >> it is true that i rarely use them and do ignore them for the most part but >> when i do use them they're very helpful and serve their purpose well. > > I have nothing against the sort functionality, I do think that the current > design - how a user can sort content - is wrong from an UX perspective. > >> >> i'd hate to have a file manager or any music player without options to >> sort by this or that. >> i don't use them with my e-mail but i do sort important mail that i need >> to keep into different folders for generally the same purpose. > > The question is, are you part of the main user group Ubuntu is targeting? As > I understand Ubuntu, it tries to be an OS for every one and because most > users are not computer experts the UI and basic functionality has to be > simple (not stupid simple, functionality simple). Sorting is nice, yes, but > should it be achieved the way it is currently?
As well as being simple for a basic user facilities that more sophisticated users need must be provided. Next you will be suggesting removing split screen and tree view from Nautilus. No-one would ever suggest that. >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Gabriel Pettier >> <gabriel.pett...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I would hate this too, even if you seldomly use it, doesn't need you won't >> find it infuriating that > it went away when you'll actually need it. I'm >> pretty sure people would hate to have them >> removed. > > Yes, we need the sort functionality, but do we need this one-click-buttons > in the "front UI"? > If you would have to go to the settings, or would have to right click to > unlock and make the Sort-By buttons visible and editable, would that be such > a big loss? That is a different suggestion to your original idea, which was to remove them completely. I would have nothing against the idea of being able to disable them. But you also need a means of specifying what the default sort is, so this is adding significantly to the preferences. > > > How often are the buttons used? > rarely Most days by me, for sorting columns in nautilus for example. It would be painful to have to go to the preferences to change it. Often I switch to date sorting to see which files have changed then back to sorting by name. > > Do they represent a key functionality in an application? > no > > How much space do they take? > They use horizontally quite much space (horizontal space is really valuable > space) I don't see how they take space in nautilus, or do you think the column headings are not necessary? They certainly do not take up any horizontal space. Colin -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
