I definitely like the lens idea.

In Christ,
Ryan

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On May 6, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Omar B. <estela...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I would like a lens that does that, is browsable and probably also replace 
> nautilus :)
> 
> the nearest thing I seen is probably in kde.
> 
> Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 09:18:44 -0600
> From: isan...@gmail.com
> To: t...@freenet.de
> CC: unity-design@lists.launchpad.net
> Subject: Re: [Unity-design] Replacing Nautilus
> 
> In my opinion, what Ubuntu really needs I not to replace Nautilus, but to 
> replace the file system it browses. Obviously, it will still be there for 
> system purposes, but it should not be exposed to the end user by default.
> The concept of the file system is just no longer relevant to modern 
> computing. A tag-based organization system is much more useful, and more user 
> friendly. 
> When a file is saved, instead of choosing a folder to save the file in, they 
> can assign one or more tags. Then, to find a file, the user could simply show 
> all files, with filters for tags. They could also search for specific tags. 
> This provides similar functionality to a modern filesystem, with the benefit 
> of being easier and potentially faster to use, which brings it inline with 
> other Unity goals nicely.
> On May 6, 2012 2:56 AM, "Thorsten Wilms" <t...@freenet.de> wrote:
> On 05/06/2012 12:32 AM, Gregory Merchan wrote:
> While emblems allowed some distinction, a
> tweak to the icon color would have allowed distinctions that carried
> over into the modes with smaller icons.
> 
> Uniform walls of folder icons are indeed not very helpful. An old concept, 
> going beyond just color or emblems:
> http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/infolders-informative-folders/
> 
> 
> Mainstream GNOME has all but abandoned Nautilus in favor of
> single-purpose applications. That could be just an implementation
> detail, but I don't think I've seen the kind of cohesion that you'd get
> from a good workplace shell, like Nautilus could have been. Unity
> development seems to be proceeding on the premise that a file manager is
> not needed.
> 
> Renaming, moving, copying and deleting files hasn't been addressed outside of 
> file managers (or the commandline), so I don't see how current GNOME or Unity 
> could do without.
> 
> 
> As I see it, there's a need for Unity to have it's own file manager. I
> haven't seen any designs for this, at least none I liked enough to
> remember. Is anyone else giving this any thought? What's going to
> replace Nautilus?
> 
> I agree with much you said and do think this should be addressed. I have to 
> warn against starting a design from "replacement for Nautilus" or "a 
> file-manager", though. The best answer is not necessarily an application, 
> technically or in appearance.
> 
> 
> The Dash, the file dialogs, Nautilus (or similar file-managers) and the 
> commandline all offer different modes of access with varying capabilities. 
> That's a whole library of mental models a user needs to pick the best way for 
> some tasks, plus the cost of choosing many times over.
> 
> - Are all the differences necessary; what are the costs and opportunities of 
> unification?
> - Could at least file-open dialogs be made similar to the Dash?
> - Could we avoid file dialogs entirely?
> - Could the Dash be extended for managing files or could a file-manager be 
> Dash-like?
> - Are the file and folder semantics even the right answer to user needs?
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> http://thorwil.wordpress.com/
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