Obviously it would need development. A "tagfs" would probably need to put tagged files into folders based on the tags, for compatibility. But I think this is the best way forward. On May 6, 2012 9:42 AM, "shane lee" <shaneym...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A tag based system would cause problems for someone who no longer wants to > use ubuntu or shares files between other operating systems or with other > people. > They would then be left with a disorganised mess. > > I had similar problems, albeit on a smaller scale, when I used shotwell a > long time ago. > By default, tags weren't saved to files so when I stopped using it and > moved to digikam, I had to manually sort through them all to put them back > into a folder structure. > > > > On 6 May 2012 16:18, Ian Santopietro <isan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> In my opinion, what Ubuntu really needs I not to replace Nautilus, but to >> replace the file system it browses. Obviously, it will still be there for >> system purposes, but it should not be exposed to the end user by default. >> >> The concept of the file system is just no longer relevant to modern >> computing. A tag-based organization system is much more useful, and more >> user friendly. >> >> When a file is saved, instead of choosing a folder to save the file in, >> they can assign one or more tags. Then, to find a file, the user could >> simply show all files, with filters for tags. They could also search for >> specific tags. >> >> This provides similar functionality to a modern filesystem, with the >> benefit of being easier and potentially faster to use, which brings it >> inline with other Unity goals nicely. >> On May 6, 2012 2:56 AM, "Thorsten Wilms" <t...@freenet.de> wrote: >> >>> On 05/06/2012 12:32 AM, Gregory Merchan wrote: >>> >>>> While emblems allowed some distinction, a >>>> tweak to the icon color would have allowed distinctions that carried >>>> over into the modes with smaller icons. >>>> >>> >>> Uniform walls of folder icons are indeed not very helpful. An old >>> concept, going beyond just color or emblems: >>> http://thorwil.wordpress.com/**2008/09/23/infolders-** >>> informative-folders/<http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/infolders-informative-folders/> >>> >>> >>> Mainstream GNOME has all but abandoned Nautilus in favor of >>>> single-purpose applications. That could be just an implementation >>>> detail, but I don't think I've seen the kind of cohesion that you'd get >>>> from a good workplace shell, like Nautilus could have been. Unity >>>> development seems to be proceeding on the premise that a file manager is >>>> not needed. >>>> >>> >>> Renaming, moving, copying and deleting files hasn't been addressed >>> outside of file managers (or the commandline), so I don't see how current >>> GNOME or Unity could do without. >>> >>> >>> As I see it, there's a need for Unity to have it's own file manager. I >>>> haven't seen any designs for this, at least none I liked enough to >>>> remember. Is anyone else giving this any thought? What's going to >>>> replace Nautilus? >>>> >>> >>> I agree with much you said and do think this should be addressed. I have >>> to warn against starting a design from "replacement for Nautilus" or "a >>> file-manager", though. The best answer is not necessarily an application, >>> technically or in appearance. >>> >>> >>> The Dash, the file dialogs, Nautilus (or similar file-managers) and the >>> commandline all offer different modes of access with varying capabilities. >>> That's a whole library of mental models a user needs to pick the best way >>> for some tasks, plus the cost of choosing many times over. >>> >>> - Are all the differences necessary; what are the costs and >>> opportunities of unification? >>> - Could at least file-open dialogs be made similar to the Dash? >>> - Could we avoid file dialogs entirely? >>> - Could the Dash be extended for managing files or could a file-manager >>> be Dash-like? >>> - Are the file and folder semantics even the right answer to user needs? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thorsten Wilms >>> >>> thorwil's design for free software: >>> http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: >>> https://launchpad.net/~unity-**design<https://launchpad.net/~unity-design> >>> Post to : >>> unity-design@lists.launchpad.**net<unity-design@lists.launchpad.net> >>> Unsubscribe : >>> https://launchpad.net/~unity-**design<https://launchpad.net/~unity-design> >>> More help : >>> https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelp<https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >>> >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design >> Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> >
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