** Melv Bailey <melvbai...@googlemail.com> [2010-10-13 15:14]: <snip> > I will probably get it to work on one of my PCs eventually when I can > trawl the bug lists and forums for a solution, but my Win 7 on an Athlon > XP2500+ and Nvidia 6800 that took less than an hour to setup is working > it will have to wait for some free time, but I am certain the cost of > the time taken to resolve it will exceed the cost of Win 7. ** end quote [Melv Bailey]
At a high level that's pretty close to the machine spec I've just installed Win 7 on (Athlon XP2500+ and nVidia 6200), however to demonstrate how much of this is down to individual experience, mine was almost precisely the opposite. Ubuntu (10.04 in this case) booted and worked fine off the live CD (I've not actually installed to HD yet). Windows 7, on the other hand, took a day or so (not continuous) of searching and experimentation to track down the problems, get it installed and working. The main initial problem with Windows 7 was that the DVD boot loader is fundamentally incompatible with my motherboard. This is, it seems, a known issue that Microsoft have ignored since the public beta versions, it was certainly heavily discussed with solutions including burning duplicate DVDs with alternative bootloaders (not sure how that fits with MS licensing!!). My solution involved a USB floppy drive and an open source boot utility called Gujin. Once installed I found reduced functionality on my printer driver and initially on support for the scanner (although a generic series driver did work). My other machine (Athlong 2800+ and nVidia 6200) had a similar experience, I had to load in drivers for the SATA controller at boot time. Then the NIC wasn't supported on the DVD (nothing fancy or new, just a basic SIS900). To get the NIC working I had to load in XP drivers, connect to Windows Update and it then downloaded the proper Windows 7 ones - well it did after a few attempts and install failures. This also fixed the lack of sound. I have yet to sort out my SCSI card, which is admittedly old (Adaptec 2940), but I have no intention of purchasing a new one - I'll just access the hardware only when I'm in Ubuntu, which installed flawlessly within an hour (10.04 again). Oh, my web cam was incompatible too, although apparently if I download firmware for a different model and install it I can get it working!! With my brand new build for my dad I have the joy of sorting out his scanner, which has no Windows 7 driver. It does, however, have a transparency adaptor that he wants to use, and I don't think new scanners have this feature - so if anyone knows of a utility for transparency adaptors (Epson) under Linux I'll get him scanning in the Ubuntu boot :) With the x86 and derivative hardware it can be luck of the draw, although (barring brand new hardware) it does seem, form my experience, that Windows 7 now has the difficult install and poor driver support, whereas Ubuntu/Linux has the upper hand ;) Support wise, I can sympathise, although based on experience when asking questions on Windows forums. The first one that comes to mind is Experts Exchange (now a pay site and abandoned), but there have been others. I tend to be greeted by a deathly silence. My last experience of support direct from Microsoft when I was having problems with WGA was to find myself accused of having purchased a pirated copy and asked to provide details of my retailer. Once I had proved it was genuine and the error was in the MS database I was provided with a new key to write on a sticker next to the genuine one - so it now looks like a pirated copy!!! The moral of the story is that any software has problems, you get them solved by perseverance, patience, giving plenty of detail and a little bit of luck - whichever side of the divide you fall. -- Paul Tansom | Aptanet Ltd. | http://www.aptanet.com/ | 023 9238 0001 ====================================================================== Registered in England | Company No: 4905028 | Registered Office: Crawford House, Hambledon Road, Denmead, Waterlooville, Hants, PO7 6NU -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
