Hello,

Ian Pascoe wrote:
> Hi Seif
>
> Before going down the new PSU route, do you have any power conditioners on
> the mains supply to your box?
>
> If not, that would certainly be the next purchase I'd recommend, followed by
> the PSU afterwards.
>
> To my inexperienced eyes, if a full power off and break with mains is
> required to reset things, it certainly does point towards the PSU, but it
> could still be spikes coming in over the mains and causing the PSU to
> wobble.  In which case, even with a new PSU you'd still be liable to
> wobbles, but maybe not as dramatic as you get currently.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Beard
> Sent: 01 October 2008 11:53
> To: British Ubuntu Talk
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardware failure?
>
>
> Seif Attar wrote:
>   
>> me again, it crashed, so it's not the graphics card, and the noapic
>> didn't fix it, the last crash happened while I was installing stuff with
>> synaptic, nothing in the logs.
>>
>> After the crash I pressed the reset button, and then it froze while the
>> grub menu was showing, restarted, it froze after I selected an entry
>> from the grub and the text "Starting Up" was showing and nothing
>> happened, in the past I had to completely turn off the pc and unplug it
>> from electricity in order to have it boot normally again  (this weird
>> freeze on reboot after crash doesn't always happen, could be that I only
>> notice it when I am working on the machine when the crash occurs, maybe
>> when it happens while I am away, whatever overheated has cooled down, or
>> whatever capacitor had gone fubar had released it's electricity? cpu
>> temp was 55c after the crash), so yesterday I removed the first RAM,
>> tried to boot it, it froze again, then I removed the second ram and it
>> booted normally, so I am now testing it with only 1 piece of ram, if it
>> still crashes, I'll try the PSU, but my friend keeps forgetting to bring
>> it! maybe tomorrow. Another thing I noticed yesterday, is that after I
>> force the computer to shutdown (holding the power button), the num lock
>> indicator on my keyboard is still on, even though the computer is
>> shutdown. Checked the bios setting to make sure I haven't enabled
>> key-press power on, and it's not enabled.
>>
>> Sorry for posting so much about this, I realise this is not Ubuntu
>> related any more (probably and hopefully), but I have no where to go,
>> and I imagine that if I take it to a hardware specialist that he will
>> want an OS that he is more comfortable with.
>>
>>
>> Peace,
>> Seif A.
>>
>>     
>
> I really do feel for you.  It's one of those annoying problems
> especially when you don't have compatible hardware kicking around.  I've
> had two Socket 754 motherboards die on me through power surges whereas
> the CPU survived.  Usually it's been a case of buying a new motherboard
> and hoping that it works as no one I knew had a compatible board and
> CPU.  Sods law one of the companies I do contract IT support for now has
> a stack of machines with Socket 754 boards and now I'm on a Socket 775
> Pentium Dual Core and Socket AM2 Phenom (again, no compatible boards
> although touch wood things are working okay).
>
> Just a thought, have you tried getting in touch with the person/company
> you got the machine from?
>
> If you ask me, if you bought it new you should have a warranty on the
> machine even if it was built by a small system builder.
>
>   
Well, I sent the motherboard and cpu back for testing, they told me
there's nothing wrong with the motherboard or cpu.

I installed the voltage regulator, and the sound on my hifi is much
better now, computer kept crashin though, I don't know why but I
imagined the problem would be too low voltage, but the indicator on the
regulator says that I am getting too high voltage ( not always I saw it
go on a couple of times).

anyway, after a lot of work and fiddling around, it turns out it's a
problem with quad core cpus and the motherboard I am using  ( cheap
motherboard ASRock  4corequad-sata2), all I had to do to get it to run
without crashing was change a value in the bios.

I just got me a new motherboard today, will install it tonight, and
install 64bit intrepid.

Thanks for your support!

Peace,
Seif A.



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