On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Nathan Haines <nhai...@ubuntu.com>
wrote:
On 07/17/2014 05:02 AM, Oliver Propst wrote:
Sure, but I think if they really want expand and create the a
similar atmosphere
around it as the desktop operating system they should try to work
closer
with the the community.
They can't work more closely with the community, really.
Consider this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1276808. Yes, it's
publicly available and open for comments from everyone, but the
description is simply a link to a private canonical.com document.
That's not truly open for community participation.
Now, I'm sure this is just a mistake -- whoever posted that to the bug
probably did so with the intention that everyone could view it. And
since we all live logged into Google, it never occurs to people who
have access that other people don't. However, it does imply that
Canonical is making development decisions in private Google documents.
So don't tell me "they can't work more closely with the community"!
That said, I'm not convinced that this is actually a problem. One of
the things I like best about Ubuntu is that it is developed with strong
direction and vision, and doesn't merely follow the majority view of
the community. It may well be that that spec had to be developed in
private, since it was part of this directed vision. That's fine!
So my complaint isn't that Ubuntu isn't completely community-driven,
it's that we keep saying it is. Let's not. Then when we get emails
like Oliver's, treat it as a request to alter the balance.
Robert
(I hope this email makes sense. I rewrote it several times, changed my
conclusion in the process, and almost deleted it. I'm hoping that it's
better to get these opinions out there, rather than leaving them
hidden, but I reserve the right to decide tomorrow that I was all
mistaken today.)
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