speaking of Android, their back button is pretty much in the exact same place - top left. Same with iOS
Agreed there could be a "back" gesture, but what would it be? one finger horizontal swipes are usually reserved for something else On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Gustavo Niemeyer <gust...@niemeyer.net>wrote: > FWIW, that's how Android's 4.4 immersive mode works too: > > "When immersive full-screen mode is enabled, your activity continues > to receive all touch events. The user can reveal the system bars with > an inward swipe along the region where the system bars normally > appear." > > https://developer.android.com/training/system-ui/immersive.html > > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Matt Richardson > <m.richardson.1...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > On 26/03/14 09:46, Michael Zanetti wrote: > >> On Wednesday 26 March 2014 06:59:47 Martin Pitt wrote: > >>> Alberto Mardegan [2014-03-25 22:21 +0200]: > >>>> Just brainstorming: what if sliding left from the lower part of the > >>>> right edge triggered the "back" action? > >>> I had pretty much the same proposal yesterday on IRC: E. g. in the > >>> scopes, swiping (anywhere) to the right doesn't currently do anything. > >>> That felt like a natural "back" action to me, i. e. move the page that > >>> I see to the right so that I get back to the previous one. The > >>> intuition is certainly the other way around in Israel or Japan where > >>> books are being read from right to left :-), but that could be taken > >>> into account (support both or look at locale?) > >>> > >>> But regardless of how it's done, consistency is the key. I really > >>> consider the abolishing of hardware back and menu buttons a bad move > >>> (I hope my old Xperia with proper buttons still lasts a while..), > >>> which created all these design problems of hoping all developers in > >>> the world would consistently create back buttons in the UI, or > >>> otherwise create an undiscoverable inconsistency. So from that POV > >>> putting it in the current location on the top left title bar is a good > >>> decision. > >>> > >> Hmm, I don't think the hardware button is that much required. I've been > using > >> phones without hardware back button for many years now and never really > missed > >> it. I do agree with Oli tho, that I miss the back button in a reachable > place > >> now. > >> > >> What I'm not sure about (and thats purely my opinion) is if it was a > good idea > >> to give the bottom edge to app developers. As the proposal says, its > the most > >> important and easily reachable edge. Imo it should be consistent across > the > >> phone experience and be the place where the most important controls for > the > >> current context are placed (e.g. the back button). What we'll get now > is a > >> random surprise whenever you use the bottom edge. > > > > As a potential solution, what if a short swipe from the bottom showed > > the toolbar, with longer swipes being handed over to the developer? > > > > Matt > > > >> > >> I personally hoped we'd keep the panel as it was, but lock it to be > always > >> visible, and if the OSK is visible, move the panel on top of the OSK, > instead > >> of hiding it behind it. I think that would have solved the > discoverability > >> issue too without being that disruptive for the overall phone > experience. > >> > >> Note aside: The reason why the Launcher on the phone is inverted, is > because > >> it was too hard to reach the home button in the top left corner. > >> > >> Br, > >> Michael > >> > > > > > > -- > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > > Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > -- > > gustavo @ http://niemeyer.net > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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