hi, Am Mittwoch, den 26.03.2014, 11:31 +0100 schrieb Michael Zanetti: > On Wednesday 26 March 2014 11:10:38 Riccardo Padovani wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Michael Zanetti > > > > <michael.zane...@canonical.com> wrote: > > > Hmm, I don't think the hardware button is that much required. I've been > > > using phones without hardware back button for many years now and never > > > really missed it. I do agree with Oli tho, that I miss the back button in > > > a reachable place now. > > > > Agree. > > > > > What I'm not sure about (and thats purely my opinion) is if it was a good > > > idea to give the bottom edge to app developers. As the proposal says, its > > > the most important and easily reachable edge. Imo it should be consistent > > > across the phone experience and be the place where the most important > > > controls for the current context are placed (e.g. the back button). What > > > we'll get now is a random surprise whenever you use the bottom edge. > > > > Totally agree, imo consistence is one of most important thing in user > > experience. > > I dislike Android because this: every app is different, seems like > > there is a common base and then a big soup with every idea every > > developer has. > > > > > I personally hoped we'd keep the panel as it was, but lock it to be always > > > visible, and if the OSK is visible, move the panel on top of the OSK, > > > instead of hiding it behind it. I think that would have solved the > > > discoverability issue too without being that disruptive for the overall > > > phone experience. > > Totally disagree. > > Back button in bottom toolbar is awesome, but it has not be always visible. > > I have a 4.2 screen and I want to use every single pixel for something > > useful, I don't want to have some commands always visible. > > If we need to have back button always visible is better to have > > hardware buttons. > > > > I really love the bottom toolbar, but I understand can be frustrating > > for a new user. I don't have any idea on how to fix that, but please, > > please, don't lose 30 pixel on bottom to have commands always visible > > and if possible keep back button in an accesible position :-) > > I for one like it a lot too as it is right now. It automatically comes in > when > the back button shows up, and hides if unused. love it. The one big issue tho > is when the OSK is up. You need to dismiss the OSK (which can be tricky > enough > to make you hate the device if there's a fullscreen text area) and then you > still have to pull in the toolbar up. That case sucks big times. > > What I meant is, if we really need to change it to make it more visible, I'd > be more willing to give up the little space at the bottom for a always > visible > toolbar, than the one-handed phone usage.
I fully agree with everything above :) the bottom bar could be a lot
slimmer than it is now FWIW ...
ciao
oli
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