I agree with Sid that any potential gesture should be possible with only
one digit and preferably the thumb.
I'm personally not keen on either the shake or pinch ideas. I think
shaking is a cumbersome and ugly gesture on a phone (and especially
tablet). After using iOS and having shake as the only method to invoke
undo, I'm tired of feeling that I could fling my phone across the room
accidentally!
Pinching requires more than one digit, and in my opinion, interrupts the
users flow (I realise I suggested it earlier, but on 2nd thought, it's
not good UX).
Taking the gesture idea further, how about the idea of tracing a circle
(anti clockwise, one finger/thumb), in the centre of the screen,
mimicking a large circular dial/knob as a method of navigating back. The
welcome screen, circle device would fit this idea nicely. Each 'click'
of this the gesture/dial would represent navigating back one step. It's
essentially a software version of the click wheel. I can see the novelty
value of this, but is it good UX?
My main concerns with this idea would be:
(1) Why didn't Apple implement it on iOS, does it make for a bad
experience?
(2) Dealing with increments - some dials may require, for example,
just 2 steps, others 5. This would make the dial always un-familiar and
play havoc with muscle memory.
Aside from the original gesture I suggested in my email (tracing a anti
clockwise semi circle/back shape). I wonder if the toolbar should be
visible by default on 'page stack' pages. I think that the page context
requires it. I can only envision 2 types of scenario where page stack is
used:
(1) Navigation to a destination (drilling down through lists).
(2) Destination (information of some kind that requires an action,
whether adding, editing or navigating away via the 'Back' button).
If this is actually the case and I'm not blind to other scenarios, I see
that enforcing a chrome-less, full screen view without a toolbar would
be detrimental to the experience. I feel that if the toolbar was visible
on page stack sub pages, it would still be in-line with the spirit of
using full screen to enable the best possible user experience (where
appropriate).
Taking it one step further, the toolbar could be shown by default on
page stack sub pages, but hidden when the use begins scrolling, this
idea comes from Evernote on iPhone when editing a note.
However, I must concede that a visible toolbar wouldn't be anywhere near
as attractive and clean as the current hidden-by-default toolbar!
Lou
On 12/06/13 11:22, Sid Payton wrote:
I really like the idea having a gesture for going back since the back
button is hidden which is the biggest drawback ubuntu touch has in my
eyes.
But it shoudn't be something you need two or more fingers for. I want
to be able to use my phone With just one hand.
So a gesture Wirth is easy to do with the thumb comes to mind.
Something like a fast stroke To the right and back to the left. Or to
fast Strokes To the left. Something that doesn't interfear with the
other gestures. Or like a triangle witjout the button. Just two strokes.
Am 12.06.2013 11:41 schrieb "Clément Gimenez"
<clement.gime...@ensta.org <mailto:clement.gime...@ensta.org>>:
Hello all,
First contribution as well for me today ;)
I agree with Lou's ideas : a nice gesture for going back would
have a real added value. Of course in addition to the
"traditionnal" back button, which then will be most of the time
hidden in the menus for the old folks...
I'd go for the multitouch gesture : Pinching to come back to an
upper level seems to me quite natural. It's not new, as we have
the same features in the Android and Win8 homescreens that can be
pinched to give an overview on them.
For the particular case of the pictures app', we'll have problems
to combine it with zooming/unzooming the picture we are looking at.
That's why i'd say a 3 (or more)-fingers pinch would be necessary.
This would look like grabbing the screen with the whole hand, as
we'd take away the upper paper of a stack.
Congrats for the work done so far, and good luck with the
upcomming tasks !
Clément
> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:11:51 +0100
> From: lougreenw...@me.com <mailto:lougreenw...@me.com>
> To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
<mailto:ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net>
> Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture
>
> Hi all,
>
> This is my first contribution to the list. I've only recently
discovered
> the Ubuntu Phone effort, but it looks like it will be very
interesting,
> powerful & beautiful, kudos to the artists!
>
> I've just been looking through the design guidelines for Ubuntu
Phone
> and something stuck out to me. I hope this is the right place to
raise
> the concern and I'm not stepping on anyone's toes.
>
> Specifically, on the 'Page Stack' guidelines page
> (http://design.ubuntu.com/apps/building-blocks/page-stack), I
noticed
> that the back button will always be hidden in the toolbar. Putting
> usability concerns aside that such an important exit method is
hidden by
> default (see iOS and it's omnipresent back buttons), I wonder
whether
> using a gesture for navigating back has been considered, perhaps a
> pinch, or my favourite, tracing out the shape of the back icon
(e.g a
> swipe upwards and to the left or more naturally, a circular
motion from
> 6 o'clock anticlockwise to 9)? The vision for the OS seems to be
very
> gesture focused, it seems it may have been over looked in this case.
>
> I imagine that the page stack will be a very common view, having to
> swipe up and then stretch and tap, just to go back, could become
> fatiguing. Perhaps once I get my hands on a working set-up my
concerns
> will be unfounded.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kind regards
>
> Lou
>
>
>
>
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