Whilst I initially raised the gesture idea as a way to get around the
lack of a back button, I think that this discussion has raised some very
valid objections to gestures, specifically from Scott & folabiklan.
I think the true solution is to show the toolbar by default on the deep
page stack pages. I read a quote somewhere that when developing Ubuntu
Phone apps, they need to be Ubuntu in character meaning configurable but
usable by our grand parents (simple but powerful?). I think the toolbar
is the only way to achieve this. My preferred solution is the Evernote
route:
I wonder if the toolbar should be visible by default on 'page stack'
pages. I think that the page context requires it. I can only envision
2 types of scenario where page stack is used:
(1) Navigation to a destination (drilling down through lists).
(2) Destination (information of some kind that requires an action,
whether adding, editing or navigating away via the 'Back' button).
If this is actually the case and I'm not blind to other scenarios, I
see that enforcing a chrome-less, full screen view without a toolbar
would be detrimental to the experience. I feel that if the toolbar was
visible on page stack sub pages, it would still be in-line with the
spirit of using full screen to enable the best possible user
experience (where appropriate).
Taking it one step further, the toolbar could be shown by default on
page stack sub pages, but hidden when the use begins scrolling, this
idea comes from Evernote on iPhone when editing a note.
However, I must concede that a visible toolbar wouldn't be anywhere
near as attractive and clean as the current hidden-by-default toolbar!
I think we must consider the loss of the home button on the device and
how disorientating it can be to rely on gestures alone (I remember my
first use of a windows 8 tablet).
Novelty and 'flabby' ideas has crept into my thinking re gestures on
this and it may have spread to others too! ;)
Simplicity is king.
Lou
On 12/06/13 12:54, Josh Leverette wrote:
Simon, This would introduce design complexity by the way that the user
may accidentally activate this gesture or fail to activate this
gesture and have negative consequences. It needs to be something that
does not interact with the current gestures, unless we're willing to
drop an existing gesture function to be replaced with this one. The
beauty of Pin to Exit is that it requires a short tap, then a tap
which is held, then moving the finger in a given direction. It would
interfere with nothing existing, and probably nothing in the future
either, and it would allow for an aesthetically pleasing removal of
the top layer as the finger moves, gripping it. This is as opposed to
acting after the gesture is complete, in an irreversible method.
Sincerely,
Josh
On Jun 12, 2013 6:51 AM, "Petar Koretic'" <petar.kore...@gmail.com
<mailto:petar.kore...@gmail.com>> wrote:
"Last one for a while I promise. What about a pinch from both the
left and right sides - together, like I'm closing up this page
'cause I'm done with it"
If I may this is more of "close this app gesture", however I'm not
sure when somebody really needs a back button since swiping from
right gives last app and swiping from left will get you to home
screen?
"nice tight little "<" like symbol in the top left title bar to
navigate back. It's small but visually clean, consistent and works."
On the other hand this sounds great (some kind of back button i
titlebar) and it can be seen in other OSes.
using more than on hand to do it really doesn't seem practical,
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