On Mar 18, 2013 6:44 PM, "Robert Bruce Park" <robert.p...@canonical.com> wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 13-03-18 06:16 PM, ɈɐȿϞƐęţ ṧḯṋפԋ Ҝалɗɧɑɤɨ wrote: > > I would like to put across a different view point, show the masses > > something which is even better than the default app, and they will > > migrate before you know it. > > Unfortunately, you're wrong. > > > If they need facebook app , let facebook work on it... > > We absolutely can not wait around for Facebook to develop an app for > our platform. Think about it from their point of view. Why would they > spend any resources at all trying to support a platform that has > literally zero percent market share? To them, it's a lot of effort for > nothing. And if we release a phone that can not access facebook, then > our phone is utterly irrelevant in the modern world of social networking. > > The indisputable fact of the matter is that we *have* to have Facebook > (and Twitter, etc) apps on launch day, and nobody is going to make > them for us but us.
But Facebook and Twitter and YouTube make their own apps they don't sell those rights and they don't allow others to use their brand name... I think on one hand your wrong though... They made apps for Firefox OS.... So why not Ubuntu Touch? > > (Thus far we've been very fortunate that the "us" I reference above > has been "us, the Ubuntu community" and not just "us, Canonical", > although we are eager to see increased community contributions) > > It seems like a good deal for Facebook. "Hey, we want to write your > official app for you, and we want to pay you to do it." Obviously > they'd have to exert a little bit of quality control in order to > ensure that we are representing their brand properly, but it's much > better than asking them to write the app themselves. > > > For all Ubuntu Desktop Users everyone seems to be comfortable with > > Gwibber ( I am not promoting Gwibber nor restricting the scope to > > Gwibber also ) but only suggesting why not enhance, reduce time > > complexity of app and fine tune it and enhance the UI of what is > > already present. Inturn who knows destop version might also get a > > overhaul. > > Yes, that is the current plan. Gwibber has been rewritten from the > ground up, features have been added, functionality has been > modularized. Currently, the Facebook and Twitter apps are thin > wrappers around the new gwibber code (which we are calling Friends, btw). > > So we have one core backend that is responsible for sending and > receiving messages from basically any social network, and then there > are some different GUI apps that provide frontends to this: Facebook > app shows only Facebook messages, Twitter app shows only Twitter > messages, and Gwibber app shows all messages. > > This does not change the fact that users are going to be expecting to > find "the Facebook app" and "the Twitter app", and they will end up > being disappointed and angry if those features are only available > under an unfamiliar name (because they won't know the unfamiliar name, > so they'll just assume the features are missing). > > People have been shouting this at us for *decades*. "Linux has no > apps!" "Well, we do, kinda, but they have different names!" That is > just not going to fly on launch day, I'm afraid. > > If we can't learn from our past, then we've already failed. And the > lesson is "have brand-name apps." > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRR8LvAAoJEMnVpoCaWglEHNsP/0gDtUZPOE95BlSQYL0lrRhv > 7q33GBTjEpl9FANFy1aqeItF2E4pJ8jxWG13OEjbvglIVdlzWI2IfNMSXFd/LqZW > 5R0HGtlr1geYvfoES+neviEXMEru3iU66FR4p20pRIw+oI77LYGhXAmlJEMvqsZs > nScmRimACWzWrW2eacnvC2bv5/535x/vGqZlooR6GvRUfjkUT7EVVsW4b/jKvvv3 > M0sRFeCAtBuMwUeD2cD0y6HzPS1otKULKvWKU8VG4nfjvCQkuo8wMEFHcUi6mBV5 > dELAmSBbqK2Oh9EqBfxEjlVABIIm2nWKQebMxc4zDy3pkPqnlHyZy9Ita8Uhid49 > +DthfGozJhvXa4uY/DqSWBg5mE8amXfyzsr1zCCybSgjX4OpxxFYQy9brcvDQRhs > DEEEOyvO2yIgGmKVYALRWShh9vFSaCf4beImZdrPsRWMtGoHIJiqWfAlVDWkEMet > ZmeXg/2uU97B90rNxtwO1IkDqgaPYo9QMT9smWdoeDccw3Ru3V1mT6In9aUS26P5 > kOaRB/mNkJePZ1hTS5AomDwPY4RBEcn5KHLfv/m1IaKs8JDfAUiredMo7BdJ3U2D > MvFLRWi7JA3ZReg2AqzKGJBZ0AZ4AE9KXFNHYGMAtgCPqXjAUluaOqafAlUA4HRA > DSTQTTCi+Zgw04w/rNkM > =IB99 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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