-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 13-03-18 06:16 PM, ɈɐȿϞƐęţ ṧḯṋפԋ Ҝалɗɧɑɤɨ wrote: > I would like to put across a different view point, show the masses > something which is even better than the default app, and they will > migrate before you know it.
Unfortunately, you're wrong. > If they need facebook app , let facebook work on it... We absolutely can not wait around for Facebook to develop an app for our platform. Think about it from their point of view. Why would they spend any resources at all trying to support a platform that has literally zero percent market share? To them, it's a lot of effort for nothing. And if we release a phone that can not access facebook, then our phone is utterly irrelevant in the modern world of social networking. The indisputable fact of the matter is that we *have* to have Facebook (and Twitter, etc) apps on launch day, and nobody is going to make them for us but us. (Thus far we've been very fortunate that the "us" I reference above has been "us, the Ubuntu community" and not just "us, Canonical", although we are eager to see increased community contributions) It seems like a good deal for Facebook. "Hey, we want to write your official app for you, and we want to pay you to do it." Obviously they'd have to exert a little bit of quality control in order to ensure that we are representing their brand properly, but it's much better than asking them to write the app themselves. > For all Ubuntu Desktop Users everyone seems to be comfortable with > Gwibber ( I am not promoting Gwibber nor restricting the scope to > Gwibber also ) but only suggesting why not enhance, reduce time > complexity of app and fine tune it and enhance the UI of what is > already present. Inturn who knows destop version might also get a > overhaul. Yes, that is the current plan. Gwibber has been rewritten from the ground up, features have been added, functionality has been modularized. Currently, the Facebook and Twitter apps are thin wrappers around the new gwibber code (which we are calling Friends, btw). So we have one core backend that is responsible for sending and receiving messages from basically any social network, and then there are some different GUI apps that provide frontends to this: Facebook app shows only Facebook messages, Twitter app shows only Twitter messages, and Gwibber app shows all messages. This does not change the fact that users are going to be expecting to find "the Facebook app" and "the Twitter app", and they will end up being disappointed and angry if those features are only available under an unfamiliar name (because they won't know the unfamiliar name, so they'll just assume the features are missing). People have been shouting this at us for *decades*. "Linux has no apps!" "Well, we do, kinda, but they have different names!" That is just not going to fly on launch day, I'm afraid. If we can't learn from our past, then we've already failed. And the lesson is "have brand-name apps." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRR8LvAAoJEMnVpoCaWglEHNsP/0gDtUZPOE95BlSQYL0lrRhv 7q33GBTjEpl9FANFy1aqeItF2E4pJ8jxWG13OEjbvglIVdlzWI2IfNMSXFd/LqZW 5R0HGtlr1geYvfoES+neviEXMEru3iU66FR4p20pRIw+oI77LYGhXAmlJEMvqsZs nScmRimACWzWrW2eacnvC2bv5/535x/vGqZlooR6GvRUfjkUT7EVVsW4b/jKvvv3 M0sRFeCAtBuMwUeD2cD0y6HzPS1otKULKvWKU8VG4nfjvCQkuo8wMEFHcUi6mBV5 dELAmSBbqK2Oh9EqBfxEjlVABIIm2nWKQebMxc4zDy3pkPqnlHyZy9Ita8Uhid49 +DthfGozJhvXa4uY/DqSWBg5mE8amXfyzsr1zCCybSgjX4OpxxFYQy9brcvDQRhs DEEEOyvO2yIgGmKVYALRWShh9vFSaCf4beImZdrPsRWMtGoHIJiqWfAlVDWkEMet ZmeXg/2uU97B90rNxtwO1IkDqgaPYo9QMT9smWdoeDccw3Ru3V1mT6In9aUS26P5 kOaRB/mNkJePZ1hTS5AomDwPY4RBEcn5KHLfv/m1IaKs8JDfAUiredMo7BdJ3U2D MvFLRWi7JA3ZReg2AqzKGJBZ0AZ4AE9KXFNHYGMAtgCPqXjAUluaOqafAlUA4HRA DSTQTTCi+Zgw04w/rNkM =IB99 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
