On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Ricardo Salveti de Araujo <ricardo.salv...@canonical.com> wrote: > On 03/18/2013 07:31 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: >> >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Alex Chiang <achi...@canonical.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> * Benjamin Kerensa <bkere...@ubuntu.com>: >>>> >>>> We currently are using Trademark brands of Twitter, YouTube and >>>> Facebook (and others on Ubuntu.com mobile area) all outside of the >>>> scope of each individual services Trademark policy... >>> >>> >>> Can you point out where you believe the violation is occurring? I >>> looked around http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone for about 10 >>> minutes and didn't see anything standing out. >> >> >> Did you not notice the Facebook, Gmail, Twitter, Skype, SoundCloud, >> Youtube and Spotify logos (Trademarked Brands) being used? If you read >> the policies of these brands they have very clearly outlined that use >> on a website or in apps to give a sense of endorsement by those brands >> or in some cases at all is not allowed. >> >> Its like slapping to Ubuntu logo on Microsoft.com... Its just not >> allowed by the trademark policy because Ubuntu/Canonical does not give >> permission to Microsoft to do such because we do not endorse that >> company. >> >> >> >>> >>> Unless you're talking about something else? >>> >>> Rest of my comments follow on the assumption you're talking about >>> the web site, and not something else. If it is something else, >>> then apologies in advance for not understanding your meaning. >> >> >> But this also applies to the phone apps which ship again Trademarked >> logos/brand names: >> >> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-twitter-dev/ubuntu-twitter-app/trunk/view/head:/twitter64.png >> >> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-facebook-dev/ubuntu-facebook-app/trunk/view/head:/facebook64.png >> >> We cannot use logos or brand names in violation of the trademark >> policies of the respective brands. >> >>> >>>> Don't use Twitter in the name of your website, application or product. >>>> - Twitter Trademark Policy >>>> >>>> https://twitter.com/logo >>> >>> >>> We have a twitter logo here: >>> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone >>> >>> But the section you quoted does not apply in this scenario, since >>> it is talking about "naming applications, products, or domains"; >>> simply using the icon is completely fine. >> >> >> Actually not correct... I know for example that Twitter in the case of >> FxOS licensed their trademark because Twitter does not want third >> platforms making use of their logo or brand in applications. >> >> You cannot just create a application on a third-party platform and >> call it "Twitter" and expect that to be accepted use... Its >> common-sense and basic trademark etiquette. > > > One thing is that we're not creating an application here, it's just a > browser opening a link. > > So, I'd follow Alex's line here, that using just the logo without modifying > the app/user experience is actually fine. > > But for an official statement we'd need a lawyer here. > > > Cheers, > -- > Ricardo Salveti de Araujo
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