Another thing: many shortcuts doesn't work anymore. Even configuring them by hand!! For instance: screenshots, knotes, etc...
El 11/10/2009 09:06 AM, Natanael Olaiz escribió: > El 11/09/2009 01:03 PM, Mohammed Bassit escribió: >>> El 10/26/2009 12:28 PM, Mohammed Bassit escribió: >>> >>>> [...] >>>> >>>>> I really like to persuade people to use ubuntu. But as long >>>>> as it looks unready it will strengthen their opinion, that linux >>>>> is only for nerds. Pleas learn your lesson from the debian >>>>> community and release a new version only if its ready. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> You are free to use Debian ! >>>> >>>> >>> After being migrated from Jaunty to Karmic in three machines (one at >>> work, one mine, and one of a friend), specially seeing that all that >>> works in Jaunty (wireless, ethernet, sound!!!!!) stop working in >>> Karmic >> >> Can you give us more details about what went wrong with your network and >> sound ? was it working in Jaunty out of the box ? did it just break once >> you upgraded to Karmic ? >> >> And those three machines you're talking about, do they have similar >> network and sound cards ? are all three of them from the same make and >> model ? >> > > OK, sorry for my short previous message. I'll explain a little more here: > > The three machines have different configurations. One desktop, and two > different notebooks. > > I installed from scratch Kubuntu (in fact Ubuntu, and then installed > the kde/kubuntu packages) in the Desktop and one of the notebooks, and > upgraded from Jaunty in the other (my friend) notebook. > > Results > - In the desktop PC Karmic works pretty good in general, but there > are a lot of times that I can't close the programs. > - In my notebook, I had problems with wireless (I couldn't > configure a hidden SSID) and the knetworkmanager doesn't allow to > connect a specific network (the click doesn't work). I also have > problems with audio. Each application that uses it makes an annoying > click each time I open or close, sometimes the audio isn't working at > all, sometimes working until suddenly it stops. The pulseaudio backend > (in gstreamer or xine, both) doesn't work, and I can't configure the > skype to work. I had hardy before, and all worked perfectly. Some > programs doesn't close. > - In my friend notebook she have the same troubles with audio and > wireless, and the kernel doesn't support it wired network card (I had > to compile an external module -but that happens also in Jaunty...-). > The PC doesn't shutdown at all, and any power key works after the > upgrade (to suspend/etc). Some programs doesn't close. > > To me is annoying that kind of problems, but as I work with linux, I > need new libraries versions, and I know it (I know how to shutdown > from a console, for instance) I still use it... But my friend is just > a new linux user, and is going to live so far away.... So: first I > thought: I upgrade her to Karmic, so the hardware support could be > better for her without my help. WRONG! At the moment, she could not > use the machine at all with Karmic. > That was the reason that I upgraded her for Karmic. And that was the > reason to think about Debian after seeing what happened... Maybe is > less "user friendly", but if I configure the machine, I could expect > that the system will still be working for her, even after updates. > With Ubuntu it seems that I can't expect that... :-/ > > > Best regards, > Natanael > >> >>> in my end-user friend machine (I replaced her Windows Vista to >>> Kubuntu, and since Jaunty she was happy and I was proud of that), I >>> seriously >> >> I don't see why you decided to upgrade to Karmic if the user was happy >> with Jaunty ? >> >> >>> considering that option. In this moment I think Debian releases are >>> more "user friendly" that the "for human beings" latest distribution. >>> >>> >> >> I have to agree that Debian releases tend to be more stable, but I'm not >> sure about the user friendly thing !! >> >> >>> Sorry, I don't want to make FUD, but I'm really sad about it. And I >>> see I'm not the only one :-/ >>> >>> >> >> I have seen a few people complaining about their upgrades from Jaunty to >> Karmic that went bad. I personally upgraded three computers to Karmic >> without any issues (Actually the jack sense on my work computer's sound >> card wasn't working in Jaunty and it works now in Karmic). >> >> Anyway, it doesn't seem like a common issue, I have only seen a few >> cases of upgrade fails, and in most of them it was the users >> "fault" (using apt to upgrade for instance). >> >> >>> Best regards, >>> Natanael. >>> >>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> > > -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
