I've never used remote installation services or SCCM. I'll change the spec so it doesn't deny their existence.
If you look at the mockup pictures I made email is the list and so is file sharing. A centralised account database is so obvious that I didn't mention it in the spec. It does mention it in the Name and Role mockup. Your last line has got me curious. Why can't this be applied to Linux/UNIX systems? -Ryan On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:29 AM, Chan Chung Hang Christopher < christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk> wrote: > Shentino wrote: > >> My first impression is that it's something to look into. >> >> > > Disk images? Give me a break. Disk images (a feature that Windows Server > does not have) will make this the laughing stock of the IT world. There is a > reason by Windows Server offers automatic remote installation of > workstations and not creation of disk images. It is completely impractical > and impossible if you include all the various software that may need > installing on the workstation. Even I do not ghost the hundreds of Windows > workstations I have to manage here in the school whether by CD or over the > network. Automatic *installation* over the network complete with hostname > assignment on installation is what you want. Tools for this are already in > place. How about 'install image' that can be put on a CD or a flash drive or > loaded over the network and performs the installation by prepping the box > and then pulling the packages over the network since you are targeting > businesses. > > I love the part about auditing and centralized management of software being > features that Windows does not have. Ever heard of System Management Server? > Wait, that thing is ancient. Ever heard of System Configuration Center > Manager? Auditing, software management, patch management, all there. Even > without buying that, you can already push software packages via group > policy. > > Man, check out the competition before you got listing supposedly missing > features. What is with the love of NT-style domains or terminology? > > Oh, where is the part about integrating services like email (I think this > is rather crucial to a business) and file/print? OH, please do not forget a > centralized user information database. Somehow, the part about 'joining a > workstation' sends shivers down my spine on how you think this will be > accomplished. > >> I'm sure that us open source monkeys can improve on Microsoft in this area >> :) >> >> > > Yeah. By doing things the 'Linux' way and not copying concepts that even > Microsoft has moved on from and cannot be applied to Linux/UNIX operationg > systems. > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Ryan Dwyer <ryandwy...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I've made a specs page here: >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBusinessServer >>> You can also see some mockup pictures I made here: >>> Name and Role: http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1210/namerole.png >>> Computer Details: http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1740/computerz.png >>> Workstation Images: http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6757/22666240.png >>> Web Server: http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1795/webserver.png >>> >>> I'm unsure at this stage whether I'll submit it to Brainstorm or go >>> straight to a Launchpad blueprint, but at least I've got a spec for >>> people >>> to look at. >>> >>> Any feedback or suggestions are appreciated. >>> >>> -Ryan >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Chan Chung Hang Christopher < >>> christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Shentino wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I can't very well speak as a "heavy iron" type server administrator but >>>>> >>>>> >>>> as >>>> >>>> >>>>> an "end user peon", so to speak, I have found that GUIs add >>>>> convenience, >>>>> >>>>> >>>> and >>>> >>>> >>>>> in many cases "point and click" is faster and more convenient than >>>>> doing >>>>> everything on a command line. Doubly so if due to a caffeine shortage >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I'm a >>>> >>>> >>>>> bit of a sloppy typist. >>>>> My two cents. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> You obviously have not tried to 'point and click' a few dozen iterations >>>> while installing and configuring a Windows computer. That is >>>> INCONVENIENT and takes AGES. Although it is not command line, I use >>>> keyboard shortcuts to speed up the process. Alt-N, Alt-A, Alt-I for >>>> installing dotnetfx for example. No way you can beat the keyboard. Even >>>> better if you can use command line switches to forego the entire process >>>> of "point and click". A command line version asking 'Y/N' is just as >>>> likely to be faster than any point and click too. >>>> >>>> >>>> This whole GUI for administration business is a complete sham imho and >>>> only serves the needs of paper MCSEs or whatever they call the latest >>>> version of certificates from Microsoft. 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