Hi Paul & the List,
Speaking of the website.
I'm a bit confused about the website url as well ubuntu.com.au or
ubuntu.org.au
Not that it matters because they point to the same site.
Although I thought that a .com.au could only be obtained by a
registered Australian business.
Maybe www.auda.org.au can provide more answers.
Anyway this is way off topic, a bit like some of the current
discussions.
I'm still waiting for my post for the BRISBANE Lucid release party to
be posted.
I made a submission on the 8th almost a week ago.
I guess it will happen when it does. (sorry for my optimism, but I
think that adds to my argument, in the general discussion)
Regards,
Andrew G.
On Apr 13, 9:30 pm, Paul Gear <p...@libertysys.com.au> wrote:
> On 13/04/10 19:46, Dave Hall wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > I have been watching as the whole structure and leadership discussions
> > has come up again.
>
> > I've looked back over the archives for this year. Based on the amount
> > of energy exerted by people discussing things on this list and IRC about
> > "what's f'd with the LoCo" they could have organised and run several
> > real meat space events.
> > ...
>
> > I know for some people ubuntu is their first experience with the
> > free/open source software community. This can lead to some
> > misunderstandings around how things work in such communities.
> > ...
>
> > Instead of people blaming others and the organisation structure for why
> > things aren't working, look at your own contributions. This list is
> > here to facilitate actions, but most of the time I just see people
> > finding excuses for why things aren't happening.
>
> I have to agree with Dave's sentiments here. There has been too much
> heat and not enough light in our recent discussions.
>
> To my eye, the main things that have really caused issues are:
>
> 1. limited commit access to the ubuntu.org.au/ubuntu.com.au web site
> 2. confusion over which is the official mailing list
> 3. porn in the Google group
> 4. vague perceptions that more "transparency" and "accountability",
> and a change in structure, is needed
>
> My suggested solutions:
>
> 1. Create your own blog. Ask Melissa (or whoever) to add it to
> Planet Ubuntu AU. Start creating events, blog entries, and other
> content so compelling that Melissa (or whoever) asks you to post
> it on the main site, and gives you an account to do so.
> 2. Check out the latest version of
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/MailingLists- i hope you
> like my clever use of headings! ;-)
> 3. Use Gmane or the official Canonical list server.
> 4. Stop worrying about transparency, accountability (however you
> define those), and structure. Do cool stuff with Ubuntu. Tell
> other people about it and invite others to join you, both here on
> the list and in your local area.
>
> Paul
>
> P.S. One area of confusion for me: which of ubuntu.org.au/ubuntu.com.au
> is the official/preferred/default web site?
>
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