Dear Remy, In message <3efb10970901051230w654dc1d0w2fbf878ca853c...@mail.gmail.com> you wrote: > > > I think your appraoch (and that of kbuild, too) is fundamentally > > broken. > > Maybe the configure structure, like u-boot has, that is so complex, so > hard to customise, so error prone, and were relations between options > is so unclear from the users perspective, is fundamentally broken > ;-)))
It may be broken (or at least in need of imprevement), too. But that doesn't contradict my statement. > I thought of it before to integrate Kconfig/kbuild and friends in > U-boot, but I got the impression back then that it would have a very > small chance of being ever accepted, so I did not invest much time in > it... You know that Jean-Christophe is working on this, don't you? > > Fixing this on the Makefile level is at least one level to > > far up. If you really want a verbosity level of make that is between > > no options (normal case) and no output (except warnings/errors, as > > with -s), then this should be implemnted within make itself, as a new > > make option.Then you have the changes in one place only, and each and > > every software package can benefit from it. Modifying hundrets of > > Makefiles here and there and then again for each new software package > > makes absolutely no sense to me. > > Maybe the linux makefile structure is a much better approach :-))) > (in that case even weak-linking could work properly) No, please don't mix things up here. There are already quite a lot of tools out there which use such a "silencing" in their Makefiles. And more and more do it. So it cannot ba a bad thing, he? But wait - it is a very basic principle of software design *not* to do the same thing again and again and from scratch in every new project. It is good design to do this just *once*, at the right place where it provides the required function for all those looking for that feature. If semi-silent output from a Makefile is wanted, then the "make" tool itself is the correct place to add this feature. Adding it to a zillion Makefiles in many different projects is very fundamentally broken. Best regards, Wolfgang Denk -- DENX Software Engineering GmbH, MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: w...@denx.de egrep patterns are full regular expressions; it uses a fast determi- nistic algorithm that sometimes needs exponential space. - unix manuals _______________________________________________ U-Boot mailing list U-Boot@lists.denx.de http://lists.denx.de/mailman/listinfo/u-boot
