I mean unless you love to lie and you're not a christian.. On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 3:31 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well I'm not willing to say that He is not. "It's a side thing." > Understand. > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 3:25 AM Mirimir <miri...@riseup.net> wrote: > >> On 06/10/2018 09:13 PM, Kevin Burress wrote: >> > It is like they are saying they want the apocalypse without saying it by >> > really saying it (anonymous) that's their way of asking, and christians >> who >> > are good christians and israel says "yes come Lord" >> >> But hey, some Islamic fundamentalists also want it. And they think that >> God and Christ will be on _their_ side. >> >> > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:28 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasy...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> >> I mean for example historically the people of Canaan worshipped God but >> >> Canaan was cursed. And it was about the place of the Hittites and >> >> Canaanites who were slaughtered. But they worshipped the same God. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:23 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasy...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> In fact I would imagine given the content and staining and such it >> would >> >>> make it more sure that He wants to do it. >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:21 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasy...@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Well I just want to bring up that should it be the end Yahweh may >> want >> >>>> to use anonymity to not reveal Himself to the masses. >> >>>> >> >>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:19 AM grarpamp <grarp...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Ben Tasker <b...@bentasker.co.uk> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>> >> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/online-digital-identification-mob-rule-online-security-minister-ben-wallace-a8390841.html >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> As I see it, there are two complimentary ways to fight it >> >>>>> . >> >>>>>> Firstly, explain (again) why it's a stupid and flawed idea. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> History shows that method always loses long term. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Second, keep building and supporting systems that help protect >> >>>>> privacy and >> >>>>>> anonymity online. That means running more tor relays as well as >> >>>>> developing >> >>>>>> new privacy friendly services etc. Essentially, make sure there are >> >>>>>> alternatives that cannot be affected by whatever half-baked >> >>>>> implementation >> >>>>>> they try to foist on us. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Tools themselves will not stop the continual foisting that always >> wins >> >>>>> long term. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Note this UK US scam has been spooling up for a wider G7 drop for a >> >>>>> while now... >> >>>>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-May/037851.html >> >>>>> >> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-March/036940.html >> >>>>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-May/037948.html >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The subject problem is that government is now redundant to your own >> >>>>> better >> >>>>> capabilities as human beings, now evolved and connected to the >> wealth of >> >>>>> instant global knowledge and comms. There's no longer a need for >> such a >> >>>>> central store of knowledge, action, and programming that, among >> other >> >>>>> things, >> >>>>> says that murder and theft are good, since now you can go online >> and see >> >>>>> that it is plainly bad, and contribute to better together, directly. >> >>>>> The solution is thus to go further this time and finally discontinue >> >>>>> that old redundant system. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> That connectedness is a "mob rule" they speak of... more properly a >> >>>>> "decentralized" mode, with voluntarist, anarchist, libertarian >> >>>>> flavors, coordinated >> >>>>> under realtime feedback for good... an unexpected result (to their >> >>>>> geriatric >> >>>>> selves and their decades expired models and thinking) of the true >> power >> >>>>> of the Internet now arrived... a curiously interesting process >> taking >> >>>>> shape >> >>>>> globally... a discussion.. an exploration of alternative models, of >> >>>>> local >> >>>>> and self governance, an elimination of redundancy and inefficiency, >> >>>>> reclamation and redeployment of all things ceded. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> So of course they want to "Digital ID" that, to censor it, >> balkanize, >> >>>>> shape, >> >>>>> track, control, criminalize, and shut it down.... before they >> >>>>> themselves are. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The fact that they've resorted to deploying worldwide surveillance, >> >>>>> the Four Horsemen of the Infocalypse FUD and more, spinning >> >>>>> it out 24x365 nonstop now in survival mode, shows they know their >> >>>>> own end is coming. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Make, keep and use tools... "systems that help protect privacy and >> >>>>> anonymity online... develop new privacy friendly services etc"... >> >>>>> not just to hide and shield from the foisting, but to fix and learn >> >>>>> new thinking, thus ending it for good. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The math is simpler than crypto... >> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs >> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVEzdh4PMDI >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >> >>>>> To unsubscribe or change other settings go to >> >>>>> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> -- >> tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >> To unsubscribe or change other settings go to >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk >> > -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk