On 06/10/2018 09:13 PM, Kevin Burress wrote: > It is like they are saying they want the apocalypse without saying it by > really saying it (anonymous) that's their way of asking, and christians who > are good christians and israel says "yes come Lord"
But hey, some Islamic fundamentalists also want it. And they think that God and Christ will be on _their_ side. > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:28 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasy...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I mean for example historically the people of Canaan worshipped God but >> Canaan was cursed. And it was about the place of the Hittites and >> Canaanites who were slaughtered. But they worshipped the same God. >> >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:23 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasy...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> In fact I would imagine given the content and staining and such it would >>> make it more sure that He wants to do it. >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:21 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasy...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Well I just want to bring up that should it be the end Yahweh may want >>>> to use anonymity to not reveal Himself to the masses. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:19 AM grarpamp <grarp...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Ben Tasker <b...@bentasker.co.uk> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/online-digital-identification-mob-rule-online-security-minister-ben-wallace-a8390841.html >>>>> >>>>>> As I see it, there are two complimentary ways to fight it >>>>> . >>>>>> Firstly, explain (again) why it's a stupid and flawed idea. >>>>> >>>>> History shows that method always loses long term. >>>>> >>>>>> Second, keep building and supporting systems that help protect >>>>> privacy and >>>>>> anonymity online. That means running more tor relays as well as >>>>> developing >>>>>> new privacy friendly services etc. Essentially, make sure there are >>>>>> alternatives that cannot be affected by whatever half-baked >>>>> implementation >>>>>> they try to foist on us. >>>>> >>>>> Tools themselves will not stop the continual foisting that always wins >>>>> long term. >>>>> >>>>> Note this UK US scam has been spooling up for a wider G7 drop for a >>>>> while now... >>>>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-May/037851.html >>>>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-March/036940.html >>>>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-May/037948.html >>>>> >>>>> The subject problem is that government is now redundant to your own >>>>> better >>>>> capabilities as human beings, now evolved and connected to the wealth of >>>>> instant global knowledge and comms. There's no longer a need for such a >>>>> central store of knowledge, action, and programming that, among other >>>>> things, >>>>> says that murder and theft are good, since now you can go online and see >>>>> that it is plainly bad, and contribute to better together, directly. >>>>> The solution is thus to go further this time and finally discontinue >>>>> that old redundant system. >>>>> >>>>> That connectedness is a "mob rule" they speak of... more properly a >>>>> "decentralized" mode, with voluntarist, anarchist, libertarian >>>>> flavors, coordinated >>>>> under realtime feedback for good... an unexpected result (to their >>>>> geriatric >>>>> selves and their decades expired models and thinking) of the true power >>>>> of the Internet now arrived... a curiously interesting process taking >>>>> shape >>>>> globally... a discussion.. an exploration of alternative models, of >>>>> local >>>>> and self governance, an elimination of redundancy and inefficiency, >>>>> reclamation and redeployment of all things ceded. >>>>> >>>>> So of course they want to "Digital ID" that, to censor it, balkanize, >>>>> shape, >>>>> track, control, criminalize, and shut it down.... before they >>>>> themselves are. >>>>> >>>>> The fact that they've resorted to deploying worldwide surveillance, >>>>> the Four Horsemen of the Infocalypse FUD and more, spinning >>>>> it out 24x365 nonstop now in survival mode, shows they know their >>>>> own end is coming. >>>>> >>>>> Make, keep and use tools... "systems that help protect privacy and >>>>> anonymity online... develop new privacy friendly services etc"... >>>>> not just to hide and shield from the foisting, but to fix and learn >>>>> new thinking, thus ending it for good. >>>>> >>>>> The math is simpler than crypto... >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVEzdh4PMDI >>>>> -- >>>>> tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >>>>> To unsubscribe or change other settings go to >>>>> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk >>>>> >>>> -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk