Have u tried switching email provider? I had alot of problem with gmail but i switched
Friet Pan <friet...@ymail.com> skrev: (25 juli 2016 14:37:00 CEST) > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "m...@beroal.in.ua" <m...@beroal.in.ua> >To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 11:42 AM >Subject: Re: [tor-talk] webmail send while using TOR is tagged as >spamends up in spam > >Hello. > >On 19.07.16 08:13, Friet Pan wrote: >> i use yahoo to mail with mailinglists but i use TOR to connect to >yahoo. >> >> tuns out that all my posts now end up in everyones spam folders. >> >> Is this because the tor exitnodes are used by spammers? >> >> or is every mail that was send from a TOR user falsely marked as >spam? >> >> also the subscription confirmation email i received from this list >ended up in yahoo's spam. >I see that roughly 10% of messages from tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >from different people go into Gmail's spam folder. If you send a >message >via Yahoo's webmail, the message is sent from Yahoo's server, not from >Tor. So it's not likely that using Tor is relevant in your case. > > > > > > >Yahoo detects that i come from a tor exit node (known tor exit node, or >known exit node that once was used to send spam perhaps??) > > >Anyway Yahoo then rates me as 'unauthenticated user' and adds a >metatag? ot someting that google recognizes as 'unauthenticated' >whatever that means... > >And then in googles terms my mail is 'spam' in googles eyes. > >That's WRONG. Since i send a normal mail to a normal mailing list. > >Now i cannot sue Google.. But Torproject is harmed by google, and >yahoo, AOL, and the rest of the cartel. And all TOR users are affected. > the cartel damages our privacy. > >If the torproject cab sue the crap out of them and then use the money >that comes out of that to improve TOR and our privacy. Then PLEASE DO!! > > > > > >> So now i also wonder how many people on this list are not receiving >THIS message. >This message has not gone into the spam folder. > > > >Since i did NOT sent THIS message trough TOR to make sure that it had a >chance to come tough (at the expense of MY privacy) > > > > > >> Can i sue yahoo for falsely tagging my mails as spam? or better can >TOR sue Yahoo? :-D and win and get a lot of money to put into >development? >> >> please have a look at dmarc.org it tries to explain in lawyer-ish >speak how the yahoo, gmail, facebook aol, paypal, ebay, amazon cartel >teamed together to force people to 'autenticate' >> >> authenticate as in ...get a code that they can use to invade our >privacy. (or is this my brain going into paranoia mode?) >No spam filter is perfect. My advice: do something useful, dude, >instead >of suing people providing you a service for free. > > > >I know a way to block spam that is nearly perfect, though i'm not a >developer, and don't have the skills to DIY it. I want to share this >idea, and discuss the details. But first i need to see that someone >grasps the concept. > > >> can this be fixed? >> >> Or do we need a new email protocol that respects privacy by default, >decentralized, with whitelist and request to communicate and eventually >a blacklist to be able to block extreme cases. >Privacy is a broad term. I guess privacy means anonymity here. Then >your >anonymity conflicts with my desire to throw away spam. How can I know >whether a message is a spam without reading it? One method is when an >algorithm reads the message. This method is employed in many mail >services. It is not perfect, as you see. Another method is when I read >only messages digitally signed and from people which I trust. This >method is more powerful than the previous and requires senders to >reveal >their identity. You see now? > >I *intentionally* use Gmail spam filter despite being able not to use >it. Because 95% of messages in the spam folder are real spam. Because >few people sign digitally their messages. > > > >Googles spamfilter SUCKS it does allow spam to arrive in your mailbox. >My idea does NOT allow spammers to even contact you, maybe one time... >but after that you can block them for life... > >So spam doe not NEED a spambox when it doe not arrive, >So phishing does not arrive (and know that your mailbox exists, simply >because the spam did NOT bounce) >So this is enough to keep your email addres on a spammers address list? > > >but this is only one part of the idea. But it is the most essential >part.. > > >> is it enough to move away from yahoo, or will the same stuff happen >when using another email provider? >At least, a mail service of a paid web hoster allows you to turn off > >spam filtering. > > > >But then it still allows spammers to send you spam on that address. :-) > > > >catch 22222222 and a half. I'm looking for a real solution that solves >the CAUSE of the problem instead of 'pharmaceutical' medicating the >effect, and keeping the cause where it is. (only to sell more crap to >pamper the effect, and give you cancer on top of it that needs even >more pharma shit) > > >Is that a good way to describe it? > > >-- >tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >To unsubscribe or change other settings go to >https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk >-- >tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >To unsubscribe or change other settings go to >https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- Sincerly Flipchan -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
