2016-07-19 7:13 GMT+02:00 Friet Pan <friet...@ymail.com>: > > So now i also wonder how many people on this list are not receiving THIS > message.
It was tagged as SPAM, but luckily I always check my SPAM folder for false positives, so I unspammed it. This helps GMail to learn that this message is safe. To be precise, I'm not entirely sure whether your mail was tagged as SPAM, or me's message who replied to it about an hour ago, since GMail organizes conversations into threads, and I just found the thread in the SPAM folder. > > I'm NOT a spammer. Can i sue yahoo for falsely tagging my mails as spam? or > better can TOR sue Yahoo? :-D and win and get a lot of money to put into > development? > > please have a look at dmarc.org it tries to explain in lawyer-ish speak how > the yahoo, gmail, facebook aol, paypal, ebay, amazon cartel teamed together > to force people to 'autenticate' > > authenticate as in ...get a code that they can use to invade our privacy. (or > is this my brain going into paranoia mode?) > > can this be fixed? > Oh, boy... Flagging TOR-related messages as SPAM is only the top of the iceberg. The e-mail system is already very discriminative in order to filter SPAM, which would otherwise take the majority of mail traffic. Innocent until proven guilty does not apply here. For example, some providers block dynamic IPs by default. It bothers me because I run my own mail server from a dynamic IP, and I don't think it is fair to block my messages just because I happen to be sending them from a dynamically allocated IP, while I have no history of sending SPAM. Luckily, most providers use Spamhaus, and Spamhaus has a quick de-listing procedure, so every time my IP changes, I need to go to Spamhaus to de-list my IP. But it still causes a little pain in the ass. Not to mention that others may use a different blacklist, for example SORBS, which does not allow de-listing (or they have a long, complicated de-listing procedure, and in the end they would not allow me to de-list my dynamic IPs anyway). So, can I sue those who list or block my messages because I send them from a dynamic IP? I don't think so. The case is not very different with TOR. For the higher anonimity of Tor, it has an even higher risk of SPAM, significantly higher than dynamic IPs – who knows, maybe the exit node you use was already used by spammers who were really sending SPAM out through Tor. Since there is no way to discern the users of a Tor exit node, there is no way to tell that you are not the same spammer who was sending spam through the same node earlier. If you think about it, Tor would be ideal for spammers to send spam, so likely they use it. It sucks. Well-intentioned people are blocked because OTHERS were abusing services by spamming, or even worse, by using Tor to relay their SPAM, which is not really the purpose of Tor. Since there is no way to discern the good users from the bad ones, there is no way to solve this problem. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
