Mladen Turk wrote:


Of course, no one is forced to participate in development, but everyone is
welcome. The only question is do we have enough juice to make it official.
AFICT, Remy, Henri and myself are in favor.
But frankly I see no reason for someone to object, cause it's open source
after all, and it doesn't break nothing that already exists.

I'm not in favor, quite the contrary.

And I thing there are reasons to object - "doesn't break anthing that exists" is not the only criteria used in apache. "Is it the best solution ?" can be used sometimes.

I think mod_proxy + ajp + enhancements might be the right solution. It seems httpd people are willing to accept this into apache2, where it should be - and it seems very likely ( and reasonable ) they'll not accept another module that does almost the same thing ( but with different config and codebase ).

I'm also not convinced that mod_ajp had been properly designed - I hear Henri mentioning "configurable non stop cluster" and "no restart", yet dynamic configuration was previously discarded by other people. And the config format suggests that little consideration was given to this - even the workers are configured in httpd.conf in a way that makes it hard to reconfigure with restarting apache. If dynamic reconfiguration ( even the minimal workers reconfig ) is on the list of features - adding it later will make the code as messy as mod_jk1 and 2.

And if "dynamic config" is not on the list - then it won't solve the problem for people who really need apache+tomcat, i.e. many large sites with uptime requirements. Why confuse the people with yet another connector - and what hope can we have it will not have the same fate as mod_webapp ?

In any case - even if I'm no longer a very active tomcat committer, I think I can still -1 something that doesn't have a clear set of requirements, doesn't have a clear design that is able to support those features, doesn't have a configuration that is easy ( and by that I mean familiar for admins ), etc. You can ignore my vote if you want, but I'm pretty sure I am right.


Costin




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