"GOMEZ Henri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>> I'm like you and use exotic OS, OS/400, where
>>> autoconf/automake/libtool didn't works (yet ?).
>> 
>> If autoconf/libtool doesn't work, then you can't even build
>> APR, you can't
>> build Apache, therefore you don't f***ing need mod_webapp, k?
> 
> On AS/400, APR and Apache 2.0 are build by IBM, from snapshots
> with in-house cross-compiling tools, so they don't have to build
> them on AS/400.
> 
> Apache 2.0 is present on AS/400 as a standard component.
> Currently you have on recent AS/400 something derived from 2.0.18 beta.
> 
> The sad thing is that IBM didn't report the AS/400 specific patches
> they apply to a snapshot back to ASF.
> 
> Now that 2.0.35 is GA, they will certainly make a new release.

Good if _they_ build it over there, _they_  can build the modules as well.
When IBM will contribute back their build stuff to Apache 2.0 and APR, maybe
we can think about that...

>>> Each tool in java which could replace them is a
>>> big plus for me ;)
>> 
>> Each tool which can replace them and is a PITA to maintain, or requires
>> hyperknowledges of XML and tagets, build properties and such, whose
>> configuration file is 40 lines to do what I do in 3 lines of
>> shell script
>> will always be a HUGE -1 from me...
> 
> So why are we using ant in jakarta instead of smaller makefiles ?)

F**K: because those are TWO different things! I never said ANYTHING about
building the webapp classes with ANT when those were build with Tomcat.
Building 10000 java class files and no C is different from building
APR+mod_webapp and maaaayyyybeeeee 10 java classes in ONE package...

Different requirement, different tools...

> ant is a great tool and it will be a PITA to avoid using it
> when it's a valid alternative to old like autoconf/automake/libtool/m4.
> 
> ant is ASF after all and run on all OS, so it's a good reason to use
> it when possible. jkant (in jtc) is a good example of native-interaction
> module which boost ant...


Go and build APR on 20something different OSes with ANT, and we'll see
what's a PITA.

    Pier


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