"GOMEZ Henri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Partly, and I still am. GNU LibTool sucks badly, but I have to >> live with it >> because that has been the choice of the APR/HTTPD projects >> (although I'm not >> the only to think that it's bad)... > > Yes and I've got also some problems with newer projects on > some Linux Redhat 6.2 where there is a 1.3.5 libtool whereas > newer seems to requier 1.4.2
That's why I am +1 (here, on APR, and HTTPD, see my posts from this week) and say let's shoot libtool... >> Configure (what's configure? Autoconf?) is good when you write >> it right. >> Some of the library tests are "so so" (that's why I don't like to use >> AC_JAVA, but rather wrote our own "AP_JAVA") but on the >> overall it's great >> apart from the syntax (M4) which can be quite hard to track... > > Yes, especially today there is XML/XSL... IT _can_ be quite hard to track if you don't use all your nifty little parenthesis right... Talk about XML, where all I have to do (And it's a SCRIPT damn it), is all niftly crummed up with < = " and > >> SO? That doesn't mean that I'm going to -1 for a Ant replacement of >> Makefiles.... > > Let's be pragmatic, if makefiles works, use it. Ok, so then don't destroy MY build by introducing shit around the CVS tree, moving files along and NOT patching what I've done before... Thanks JF for doing that, but I'm still not able to build the java code interactively without passing thru ANT... > if ant build files could works, let use it. No, because then we will have TWO stupid build systems to track and debug. > I'm like you and use exotic OS, OS/400, where > autoconf/automake/libtool didn't works (yet ?). If autoconf/libtool doesn't work, then you can't even build APR, you can't build Apache, therefore you don't f***ing need mod_webapp, k? > Each tool in java which could replace them is a > big plus for me ;) Each tool which can replace them and is a PITA to maintain, or requires hyperknowledges of XML and tagets, build properties and such, whose configuration file is 40 lines to do what I do in 3 lines of shell script will always be a HUGE -1 from me... Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>