* Paulo Gaspar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on Thu Jan 18, 2001 at 11:49:41 +0100:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Remy Maucherat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 04:29
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 20:17
> > > >
> > > > on 1/17/01 10:28 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Why was it one of your worst days? I don't see how it could have been
> > bad,
> > > > nor do I see how that could influence your actions here by
> > > > starting to send yet more flame bait.
> > >
> > > And, of course, you are biting the bait, the hook, the line...
> > >
> > > Enough was already said about that. Sam, Hans, Amy and I managed to talk
> > > about it with no flames and Costin already apologized.
> > >
> > > What are you missing?
> >
> > However, I cannot say the same thing about you. Frankly, could you just
> > *stop* that ? I don't think you fully realize it, but you're not helping
> > either Costin or this project in any way by getting into this pointless
> > discussion (other than proving to me that you are way more childish than
> > what you think Jon is).
>
> It as nothing to do with Costin and all to do with Jon.
I think actually it has rather more to do with you, Paulo. While I am not,
am very unlikely to be, anything to do with the tomcat project - nothing against it,
just my java coding sucks, which is why I'm a sysadmin ;) - I'm beginning to get
_very_ fed up with your attitude. I can understand Costin's wish to release his
"baby" as the next version of tomcat 3.x. I can certainly understand Jon and
Craig's concerns as to supporting that baby, and wanting to move on with Tomcat-4.
However. I have not seen anything from you recently except flame bait. FUD and
self agrandisement.
On a quick count of the last year or so's emails to tomcat-dev, I can see about
10 "useful" emails from you. And many times that number of pointless flames
that (a) are mostly personal attacks (b) all say _exactly_ the same thing,
and (c) are mostly instances of wanting the last word.
>
> I only reply to what Jon says. I already explicitly said that and I clearly
> stated that I will stop when he stops.
>
> To be clear, I am fed up that Jon:
(does stuff, most of which you are also guilty of too)
>
> He always wants to have the last word. Usually (because he is part of the
> clique?) no one asks him to stop. So, this time, I have just kept answering
> to him to see what happens.
Warped perception of reality? How does saying _exactly_ the same thing each
time count as replying? that's not debating, that's just a (pointless) attack.
I agree that Jon comes across fairly strongly, but he makes an attempt to
answer people honestly and accurately, which is all a reasonable person can want.
Can everyone _please_ try to take a step back and a deep breath? I note the cvs
commits are almost non-existant at the moment, and this is obviously not an
ideal situation for people like me who would like to be able to roll out a
Servlet 2.3 based environment.
Cheers,
Thom
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