> -----Original Message-----
> From: Remy Maucherat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 04:29
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 20:17
> > >
> > > on 1/17/01 10:28 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Why was it one of your worst days? I don't see how it could have been
> bad,
> > > nor do I see how that could influence your actions here by
> > > starting to send yet more flame bait.
> >
> > And, of course, you are biting the bait, the hook, the line...
> >
> > Enough was already said about that. Sam, Hans, Amy and I managed to talk
> > about it with no flames and Costin already apologized.
> >
> > What are you missing?
>
> However, I cannot say the same thing about you. Frankly, could you just
> *stop* that ? I don't think you fully realize it, but you're not helping
> either Costin or this project in any way by getting into this pointless
> discussion (other than proving to me that you are way more childish than
> what you think Jon is).

It as nothing to do with Costin and all to do with Jon.

I only reply to what Jon says. I already explicitly said that and I clearly
stated that I will stop when he stops.

To be clear, I am fed up that Jon:
 - tells everybody what they should do;
 - judges and condemns people without knowing how their lives are (as with,
   but not only, the several remarks about people not dialing-in in the PMC
   meeting);
 - makes dirty insinuations about others professional lives;
 - flames people;
 - bullies people;
 - etc.

He always wants to have the last word. Usually (because he is part of the
clique?) no one asks him to stop. So, this time, I have just kept answering
to him to see what happens.

It surprises me that, instead of asking Jon (the PMC member that should set
the example) to stop, you are asking me.


> I'll not veto his proposal just because I'm a TC 4 developer. Actually,
> depending on how he presents it and what he plans to do, I'll +0 or +1 it.
> I had been looking at the HEAD of jakarta-tomcat and I have to say that :
> - last time I tested it, it was faster than TC 3.2 (good)
> - it was also very buggy (bad, but that may have changed since I
> last tried
> it), so I think the support issue is essential
> - the code organization looked cleaner (good)

I never expected other than a fair judgment from you.


Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar


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