on 10/28/2000 10:05 AM, "marc fleury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am sorry, I should actually provide some information.
> 
> We use the GPL to protect the kernel.  The virality of the GPL applies to
> the "derived work" or "modified work as a whole" of the kernel.

That is how you interpret it, not how RMS interprets it.

> Tomcat is not "derived work" of jboss, clearly, wouldn't you say? :). The
> "modified work as a whole" done in jboss to integrate the Tomcat jar is the
> MBean adapter (for JMX), the Tomcat Interceptors (classLoaders), and the
> J2EE deployer that we have developed.  Those are GPL, as per the GPL derived
> work virality.

I cannot take Tomcat and combine it with JBoss and make a distribution of it
that is available from Apache.org because JBoss is under a GPL license.
Period.

> The GPL applies to derived work in distribution.  Our distributions are GPL
> kosher.
> Please don't be afraid of it, and feel free to discuss it...

Marc, I'm definitely not afraid to tell you what I think and I'm tired of
discussing it. I'm burnt out on this war. It is completely stupid and it
looks like you are going to have to get yourself burnt before you see the
light. Sigh.

The only solution for you is to choose a NON GPL license for JBoss such as
MPL, BSD or APL. Period. You have no other choice unless you want to
completely loose control of JBoss and have all of your hard excellent work
completely ignored.

I just went through this same exact stupid war with Justin Wells for nearly
4 months over WebMacro and he ended up releasing WM under the APL license
after he saw us take away his control of his product by producing a far
superior product under a APL license.

I'm not saying that I'm going to do it (I'm definitely not going to do it
cause I don't like EJB anyway), but while I was at ApacheCon, I have
certainly heard enough other people talking about doing it.

People are VERY unhappy with the fact that JBoss is GPL and will be looking
for other solutions to support.

You have been warned.

-jon

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