At 02:18  28/10/00 -0700, you wrote:
>on 10/28/2000 10:05 AM, "marc fleury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I am sorry, I should actually provide some information.
>> 
>> We use the GPL to protect the kernel.  The virality of the GPL applies to
>> the "derived work" or "modified work as a whole" of the kernel.
>
>That is how you interpret it, not how RMS interprets it.

nor how software lawyers interpret it. While it has only been put to the
test a few times and they usually end up in out of court settlement all the
lawyers who have looked at it (both under pay of FSF and otherwise) have
not upheld this view. 

In very few circumstances is anything in the same JVM allowed to be non-GPL
unless it is covered by 3rd clause of GPL.

>The only solution for you is to choose a NON GPL license for JBoss such as
>MPL, BSD or APL. Period. You have no other choice unless you want to
>completely loose control of JBoss and have all of your hard excellent work
>completely ignored.

Thats one of the pities of GPL - it protects the code not the people ;(

>I'm not saying that I'm going to do it (I'm definitely not going to do it
>cause I don't like EJB anyway), but while I was at ApacheCon, I have
>certainly heard enough other people talking about doing it.

There is a few other oss solutions out there. I know of two groups who were
put off by jBoss'es license and searched for other OSS ejb servers. Only a
few are about but 

>People are VERY unhappy with the fact that JBoss is GPL and will be looking
>for other solutions to support.

now thats an understatement ;)

And no one has even invoked the wrath of RMS yet ;) Once RMS finds out
about the project misusing the GPL he will start advocating all the GNU
peopls stay away from it. His opinions while sometimes a little kafuie are
generally listened to. See some of the other projects he has attacked and
you will see a list of projects that have lost a lot of mind share compared
to what they should have (ie KDE, TCL are 2 good examples). Or even worse -
you may get slashdotted ;)

Cheers,

Pete

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