On 01.03.25 06:27, Sean Turner wrote:
• Discussion of subjects unrelated to IETF policy, meetings, activities, or technical concerns (from RFC 3683)
Could the chairs please clarify about the announcement of side meetings on the mailing list in the FAQ [1]?
More specifically, like John, I too was planning to announce my public side meetings on attested TLS with the intention to inform potentially interested participants and for organizational matters (e.g., to request a bigger room if more participants are interested, or to choose an alternate time most suitable to interested participants, or to see if someone else in interested in presenting etc.). Since there will likely be not much flexibility close to the meeting, this is the right time to have this kind of announcement.
Attested TLS was presented at least a couple of times (most recently at IETF 121) in the TLS WG meetings, and several times in RATS WG meetings. So I consider it still related to IETF activities. But I want to double-check how the chairs view it: is it possible to announce it with the explicit mention that it is a "public side meeting"? or do the chairs see it as off-topic? If the latter, what is the exact boundary line between related and off-topic?
Also, one clarification question: On 28.02.25 18:27, John Mattsson wrote:
I have organized some side meetings in the past. In my personal understanding, only the /scheduling mechanism/ for public side meetings has changed, but /principles/ for public side meetings have not changed. Isn't this the case? I mean the following phrase existed in IETF 121 as well:The new updated procedures for side-meetings as well as some of the formulationsin my mail seems to causedsome confusion.
"side meetings are not part of the official IETF meeting agenda, are not approved or even reviewed by the IESG, and have no formal standing. Side meetings should not be used to imply endorsement by the IETF" [2]
[1] https://github.com/tlswg/tlswg-wiki/blob/main/FAQ.md [2] https://wiki.ietf.org/en/meeting/121/sidemeetings
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