One thing at a time?

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, at 05:05, David Benjamin wrote:
> I'd suggest we also deprecate TLS 1.2 TLS_DHE_*, even when ephemeral:
> 
> - The construction is broken. The leak itself in the Raccoon attack 
> comes from TLS 1.2 removing leading zeros. We can't change the meaning 
> of the existing code points, so any fix there would involve dropping 
> them.
> 
> - It lacks group negotiation, which makes it very difficult to migrate 
> away from small groups. At least in the web, it's already no longer 
> supported by most implementations.
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/AAdv838-koo/m/bJv17voIBAAJ
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1496639
> https://weakdh.org/
> 
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:52 PM Carrick Bartle 
> <cbartle891=40icloud....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> > Agreed. I'll change the title to reflect that.
> > 
> > > On Mar 8, 2021, at 7:33 AM, Martin Thomson <m...@lowentropy.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Well overdue.  We should do this.
> > > 
> > > The title "Deprecating FFDH(E) Ciphersuites in TLS" doesn't seem to match 
> > > the document content.  I only see static or semi-static DH and ECDH key 
> > > exchange being deprecated (in the document as non-ephemeral).
> > > 
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