On Oct 22, 2017, at 7:26 PM, Steve Fenter <steven.fente...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have been saying to anyone who will listen that the IETF needs a private 
> forum for enterprises, to enable them to come forward and discuss their real 
> requirements. Without this input the IETF is trying to architect and engineer 
> solutions without knowing the complete set of requirements, at least on the 
> enterprise side.  This results in sub-optimal design decisions (from an 
> enterprise perspective), which in this case will break mission critical 
> enterprise monitoring and troubleshooting systems.

The reason we don't have that is that designing secure protocols in secret 
isn't a trustworthy approach.   Of course, you can always get together 
privately.

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