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> On Oct 22, 2017, at 3:24 PM, Kathleen Moriarty 
> <kathleen.moriarty.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 22, 2017, at 2:40 PM, Ted Lemon <mel...@fugue.com> wrote:
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>>> On Oct 22, 2017, at 1:54 PM, Russ Housley <hous...@vigilsec.com> wrote:
>>> No one is requiring TLS 1.3 that I know about.  However, there are places 
>>> that require visibility into TLS.  I will let one of the people that works 
>>> in a regulated industry offer pointers to the documents.
>> 
>> What they require is visibility into contents of the flow that they are 
>> using encryption to protect.   Right now, the protocol they are using is TLS 
>> 1.1 or TLS 1.2.   The right thing for them to do if they continue to need 
>> this visibility and are no longer permitted to use TLS 1.2 is to use 
>> IPsec+IKE, or some protocol that is designed for this use case, not to take 
>> a protocol designed specifically for securing flows from on-path 
>> eavesdropping and create a mode where it is easier to wiretap.
>> 
>> There is no reason other than momentum for them to switch to TLS 1.3 when it 
>> doesn't address their use case.
> 
> With no hat, I agree.
> https://www.rsa.com/en-us/blog/2017-08/tls-security-and-data-center-monitoring-searching-for-a-path-forward
> 

I should note that I have not read the new draft yet.  These threads keep me 
busy.
> Kathleen 
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