Hiya,

On 20/07/17 13:04, Paul Turner wrote:
> Let’s use the oppressive government institution that I believe you’ve
> mentioned (pardon me if I got that wrong) with a connection over the
> Internet in this case. 

Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean there, but guessing, yes,
there can be multiple nation state actors who would try to
compel use of this mitm, and for a proposal in this space
that also causes intractable problems when a connection is
supposed to be mitm'd by more than one of those, or one is
not clear which is the appropriate nation state attacker
to appease.

> Can you reply in that context? I’m truly
> interested in understanding. It wasn’t a “try”.
Hopefully the above helps, but it may also help to say that
the appropriate context I'd consider for TLS is essentially
all the applications of TLS and all the deployments that'd
eventually be updated with whatever proposal is on the table.
(Prior to getting it off the table when it's shown to be
a bad plan:-)

Cheers,
S.



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