> On 27 Jun 2017, at 3:25 am, Colm MacCárthaigh <c...@allcosts.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Ilari Liusvaara <ilariliusva...@welho.com> 
> wrote:
> I understood that the cache probing attack requires much less replays
> than the other side-channel ones. And furthermore, distributing the
> replays among zones makes the attack easier (because replay with the
> cached data hot doesn't tell that much).
> 
> In practice with real world HTTP caches, one replay is often sufficient. 
> That's because in addition to the faster load time you can look at the cache 
> headers (like max-age)

I think you mean Age. 

> to pinpoint that it was the replay that put the item in the cache. This would 
> work with DNS too, where TTL or RRSET cycling leaks more information in the 
> same way.  
> 
> Using more zones does help, and if the attacker were targeting a busy cache, 
> then it can certainly help to weed out the noise and increase the likelihood 
> of finding a zone/node where the cache is empty to begin with. 

Cheers,


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Mark Nottingham   https://www.mnot.net/

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