@TiddlyTweeter *"No, it wouldn't.* The residual issue is* positional reference. *A* transcluder *is* relative *to a *transcludee.*
Yes, of course. That' the whole crux of the matter. Any tiddler can take on both the role of a transcluder and a transcludee. It depends on the context. But given two tiddlers with a transclusion relationship there is never a doubt which tiddler is which. "Without positional referencing you would not know what is transcluded from what is transcluding." Its not the concern of the *transcluder* if the *transcludee* produces its content by nested transclusions or not. So positional referencing is not needed. "FYI, I think your basic split in terms is useful, but you'll need a *third term* too to help *explicate nesting*." Why? We say transclusions are *nested*, if a *transcludee* (a transcluded tiddler) in turn transcludes another tiddler and so takes on the role of a *trancluder* relative to this thidd tiddler. On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 11:36:55 AM UTC+1 Reinhard Engel wrote: > @Mat > > Never mind! > > Just image you always have to say "the employing person" vs "the employed > person". Anyway, I wanted to add some information about transclusions into > my wiki and looked for some suitable tiddler titles. > *TheTranscludingTiddler* and *TheTranscludedTiddler* seemed to > cumbersome. So I chose the suggested terms. They work for me, and I thought > they might be useful in general. > > Thanks for your remarks! > > -Reinhard > > On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 11:21:10 AM UTC+1 Reinhard Engel wrote: > >> @TiddlyTweeter >> >> You wrote: >> >> "Part of the issue* though* is that in TW "transclusion" is potentially >> *radical*. Transclusions can be nested infinitely. So, in that context, >> the terms "Transcluder" / "Transcludee" would not be so transparent in >> actual use" >> >> If transclusions are nested, each intermediate tiddler takes on both the >> roles *transcludee* and *transcluder*. >> The relationship is between the transcluder and the transcludee is >> strictly binary. The transcluder doesn't and shouldn't care about how the >> transcludee produces its content. >> >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/3abb5bd9-d662-4be0-98b7-b87d04baab7fn%40googlegroups.com.
