Hey Ethan

I'm confident that many DAT purists will be cringing with glee as they see another take the foray into sub-optimal music recording gear.  However, I've heard some great MD recordings that were "good enough for rock 'n' roll".  The convenience is nice--many MD tapers use tiny microphones so they can also do stealth taping.  And the cost benefits are significant for those of us on limited budgets (most of us?).

The "DAT-Heads" USENET newsgroup is a definitive source of information for recording live shows, and there are numerous archives on the web for this information.  Shop around because prices vary as well as service--you don't want to wait 5 weeks for an "out of stock" microphone to be slowly delivered.  It might be worth the 20 bucks extra to get it from a respectable store that will honor the warranty, etc.

There is also the consideration for mono taping.  This is frowned upon by serious tapers, but some would argue that it's better to get one good microphone than two semi-good mics.  Or just go the easy route and get a decent stereo microphone.  The MD recorder won't "care" that much.... ;-}

There's tons of mics being sold on EBay, et al.  There's also numerous used items on hundreds of USENET newsgroups (rec.audio.forsale comes to mind, but I'm sure there's a better one for recording gear).

I've also posted the solo Brad show setlist from SlipBase (by way of Betty).  We don't (yet) have the setlist for the Brad+Marco+Joey+Jessica, but we do have some good reviews on the Slip's Graffiti Board "Subject "news about 2.27.03 nyc show", here is the URL:

 http://theslip.com/graffiti/msg2.php?id_tpc=2&id_msg=1961&mainid_msg=1933

-Take it easier,

  Phrazz

Cheap microphones for MD users

[From DAT-Heads FAQ]
{28}    What kind of mics are good for live recording with a DAT?

Mic selection is generally driven by budget, personal taste, and
pattern requirements (which are in turn driven by recording location
and venue layout), and stereo recording technique.  There is no such
thing as the perfect microphone, even for a single type of recording
situation.  [rg]

Some of the most popular mics for live taping, along with miscellaneous
comments from users:

[high-cost mic info deleted ;-}]

Mid to Low cost:

AKG C568
shotgun, hypercardiod at low frequencies, $700/pr

Audio-Technica 4071

Audio-Technica 813
cardiod, electret condensor, $300/pr

Core Sound Binaurals
true in-ear binaurl, quasi-binaural, and omni-directional

Crown
pzm

Nakamichi CM100 + CP4
shotgun

Nakamichi CM300 + CP4
shotgun

Shure SM94
cardiod, $500/pr

Sonic Studios
quasi-binaural

Brad's solo show at Tribeca

[from http://www.phrazz.com/slipbase, posted by Betty on theslip.com's Graffiti pages]

2/27/03: Tribeca Rock Club - Manhattan NY
Set 1: 1.indian improv (w/ landing-type loop) 2.slide improv 3.lazilee ("does" version) 4.sleeping (written four days ago) 5.bluesy improv (w/ tambourine on foot) 6.downtempo instrumental ballad 7.wine? (untitled maybe) 8.long intro->alsoa (by request, also an "indian improv" tease) 9.i only wanna be with you (not sure about this title either, but it was dedicated to Brad's father, who was present)
Betty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Friday, February 28, 2003 at 17:18:48 (CST)



Ethan Fry wrote:
I recently bought myself an MD for the specific purpose of recording shows (and small children named Eleanor).
 
All you DAT heads can go ahead and groan.  But some of us can't afford expensive rigs, not to mention violins to play you sad songs about the woes of MD recordings.
 
Which brings me to my question.  I'd like to get some mics, for those not-as-rare-as-they-should-be occassions when there's nobody to patch out of.  The thing is, I know squat about microphones.  So maybe somebody in Slip land could offer some advice as to types, features, makes, or models.  Keep in mind that if I had the money for serious gear, I wouldn't be running a minidisc, so don't tell me how hot your new matched Earthworks sr78's are.  Well, you can tell me how hot they are, but don't be surprised when I don't rush out and buy them.  They're in what I consider a good price range for a car.
 
I'm looking for decent inexpensive microphones.  And actually, there might even be someone here who's got some old one's they want to unload. Or maybe you can just tell me about your collest microphone expereicne, or what you've liked and disliked about mics you've had, anything, I'm in a total vacuum here.  The numbers don't mean much, and the descriptions from manufacturers are like wine labels.  What the hell is 'subtle oak complexity'?
 
So if you've got something to say about microphones, out with it.
 
By the way, did anyone get a setlist from Brad's solo gig last week?

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