hi and thanks for you patience :-)

ok it works
i have started again twice and i have noticed i had not read carefully
now ipress command then e ; it writes Mt+e on the +tm file
(i am under 1.99.21 under macos 10.14.6)
i then leave the command key and press p ; it erases the "Mt+e" and save a pdf 
version of the file in the same folder
that is really, really wonderful for me....
thanks a lot you for all this pedagogic work

my questions now : 
a) will this functionnaly be implemented in a next version of texmacs without 
needing this manip ? (would be glad for new users)
b) is it just normal that the command called by [command+e, p] doesn't appear 
in the file menu ? or maybe i looked bad ?
c) can we imagine the same where Meta+e,p would also, in the same time, save a 
.html or/and .tex version at the same place in the same time, the choice of 
chich version i want between pdf, html, tex being customzable in a pref pane ? 
that would be for me a next wonderful step…

thanks again 

Vincent

> Le 10 juin 2021 à 10:30, Giovanni Piredda <pired...@posteo.de> a écrit :
> 
> 
> Am 10.06.2021 um 10:02 schrieb vincent douce via Texmacs-dev:
>> it has no effect
>> that just types e and p
>> 
> 
> On which operating system are you? Jeroen wrote yesterday in the late evening 
> a description of the key presses after the snippet (it starts with "The Meta 
> key is "),  I copy it here (you can also read it 
> athttp://forum.texmacs.cn/t/wiki-assorted-code-snippets-to-customize-texmacs-behaviour/465
>  
> <http://forum.texmacs.cn/t/wiki-assorted-code-snippets-to-customize-texmacs-behaviour/465>)
> 
> "The Meta key is the Windows key in Windows or Linux, or the Command key on 
> Apple systems. When using these keys, press Meta and e together, then press p.
> 
> The Escape key can serve as a fallback Meta key. To use this key, first press 
> Meta, then release and press the e key, finally press the p key."
> 
> 
> 
> Please let me know if it works in one way or another.
> 
> G.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>> Le 10 juin 2021 à 09:59, Giovanni Piredda <pired...@posteo.de 
>>> <mailto:pired...@posteo.de>> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 10.06.2021 um 09:02 schrieb vincent douce via Texmacs-dev:
>>>> hi Giovanni,
>>>> i dont really understand, if i type meta (ctrl by me)
>>> Hi Vincent,
>>> 
>>> please try esc instead of ctrl. Only once esc (not twice!) then release, 
>>> then e, then p.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> then i put it off then type e then p there are just the letters e and p on 
>>>> the texmacs document
>>>> if i type now meta+e of esc-esc-e, when ever i type a "p" after that, it 
>>>> has for effect that a numeroted list appears in the .tm doc
>>>> and the process theorically called by this shortcut does not appear in the 
>>>> "file" menu…
>>>> :-)
>>>> Vincent
>>>> 
>>>>> Le 9 juin 2021 à 18:39, Giovanni Piredda <pired...@posteo.de 
>>>>> <mailto:pired...@posteo.de>> a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 09.06.2021 um 15:36 schrieb vincent douce via Texmacs-dev:
>>>>>> thank very much Giovanni
>>>>>> and thanks again Jeroa
>>>>>> i've done what is very clearly explained
>>>>>> but not there is a little thing i dont know how to do :
>>>>>> 1) it is written meta-e p what i interprete as "meta+E" then P
>>>>>> it should be written that meta (command in my case on mac) should be 
>>>>>> maintained so "meta" pressed then E then P while meta pressed
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is first meta on its own (meta is the esc key both on Windows and 
>>>>> Linux, I do not know on MacOS), then E, then P (I read in a message by 
>>>>> Max Gubinelli, either on the user mailing list or in the forum, that meta 
>>>>> does not work like ctrl or alt, where you press them at the same time as 
>>>>> other keys, but it must be used sequentially: first meta, then P).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your points 2) and 3) come up probably because of the simultaneous 
>>>>> pressing of meta together with E, because of this I did not investigate 
>>>>> what happens.
>>>>> 
>>>>> By the way (@ Jeroen) the function did not work in the test I did on 
>>>>> Windows, I am going to write in the forum about this though.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Giovanni
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2) when i press meta then E+P it seems to call a menu item in the "file" 
>>>>>> menu item since this menu gets blue a while ; but as i search in this 
>>>>>> menu i can't find the instruction ; in general, all menu items show the 
>>>>>> shortcut ; in this case the shortcut exists but not the menu item ; 
>>>>>> matybe it is not a problem
>>>>>> 3) when doing meta E+P, it opens a pdf of my .tm file, called "preview" 
>>>>>> and it i command-clikc on the bar of this pdf, macos shows me that the 
>>>>>> path is .TeXmacs/system/tmp so not the expected path ; have i done wrong 
>>>>>> something ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Le 9 juin 2021 à 13:41, Giovanni Piredda <pired...@posteo.de 
>>>>>>> <mailto:pired...@posteo.de>> a écrit :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 09.06.2021 um 13:17 schrieb vincent douce via Texmacs-dev:
>>>>>>>> thanks Jeroen
>>>>>>>> thanks for this work
>>>>>>>> indeed i see "Export to a pdf with the same main file name as the 
>>>>>>>> current TeXmacs document" which corresponds to one of my questions
>>>>>>>> but i apologize to ask again…
>>>>>>>> the web page you have created remains very technical
>>>>>>>> for myself, with time an energy i may be able to find where i type the 
>>>>>>>> scheme code you give…
>>>>>>>> but for future beginners they will just think it is not for them…
>>>>>>>> i know maths teachers i am one… 
>>>>>>>> what i suggest is to assort your webpage to another one , preferabily 
>>>>>>>> a video, where it would be explained where to write this code, in 
>>>>>>>> which file, where is this file on the hard drive and so on…
>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>> Vincent
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have edited the post, formatting the instructions for using the 
>>>>>>> snippets written by Jeroen in a way that---I hope---makes it easier to 
>>>>>>> "pick them up".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please let me know if in your opinion they are now in fact easier to 
>>>>>>> notice.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For the videos I am of two minds. I have in my mind the perception that 
>>>>>>> a video that explains the same things as the post would be "easier to 
>>>>>>> follow"; on the other hand it feels like one becomes passive, able to 
>>>>>>> do things only when someone else takes their hand and makes it move. 
>>>>>>> Perhaps other people do not have this reservation, and maybe a video 
>>>>>>> would turn out nice and useful :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Giovanni
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Le 9 juin 2021 à 11:50, Jeroen Wouters <jer...@diasporist.org 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jer...@diasporist.org>> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Dear Vincent, TeXmacs developers,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Your email has inspired me to create a "wiki post" on the forum where 
>>>>>>>>> short code snippets can be gathered to customize TeXmacs' behaviour:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://forum.texmacs.cn/t/wiki-assorted-code-snippets-to-customize-texmacs-behaviour/465
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> <http://forum.texmacs.cn/t/wiki-assorted-code-snippets-to-customize-texmacs-behaviour/465>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Various such snippets had been posted to the forum already, but in 
>>>>>>>>> this way we can collect them in one place. Everyone can now also post 
>>>>>>>>> solutions that they have found on their own (and hence have not been 
>>>>>>>>> posted before), but could still be useful for others to see. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Some of the customizations you would like are already there. Please 
>>>>>>>>> have a look.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Everyone else is kindly invited to share any customizations that you 
>>>>>>>>> have lying around that may be useful to others. The post on the forum 
>>>>>>>>> can be edited by any registered user, just click the "Edit" button at 
>>>>>>>>> the bottom of the main post.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>> Jeroen
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 8 Jun, 2021 at 19:49, vincent douce via Texmacs-dev 
>>>>>>>>> <texmacs-dev@gnu.org <mailto:texmacs-dev@gnu.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> for me :
>>>>>>>>>> - how to parameter TeXmacs so that you can easily and efficiently 
>>>>>>>>>> save a pdf version in the samefolder with the same name than the .tm 
>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>> - how to parameter TeXmacs so that you can easily and efficiently 
>>>>>>>>>> save a .html version in the samefolder with the same name than the 
>>>>>>>>>> .tm file
>>>>>>>>>> - how to customize totally all the shortcuts, and save your 
>>>>>>>>>> configuration in a file that you can share with others
>>>>>>>>>> - how to create macros that will be available in every new texmacs 
>>>>>>>>>> doc you open, for example id(n) would create the n-identity matrix
>>>>>>>>> 
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