Cool, thanks for the pointer.  Can I ask what the size of your environment
is?  Is the product scaling well?

Thanks,
-Adam

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Dave Caplinger <
davecaplin...@solutionary.com> wrote:

> We use Unitrends Virtual Backup as well; it has been around for quite a
> while since it was previously known as PHD Virtual Backup before Unitrends
> acquired them.  It snapshots and backs up individual VM's virtual disks at
> a time (with de-duplication and compression) so we don't have the issue of
> trying to quiesce the entire datastore at once.  If I recall correctly
> there are agents to handle cases like SQL or Exchange as well.  It also
> supports replicating completed backups to a secondary (perhaps offsite)
> destination.  We've been very happy with it overall.
>
> - Dave
>
> > On Oct 27, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Adam Levin <levi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Ski.  We also recently spoke to a new, young vendor named
> Rubrik.  It's an interesting product, but our company tends to avoid
> technology that's less than 5 years or so in the market (pah!  boring! :) ).
> >
> > -Adam
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Ski Kacoroski <kacoro...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Adam,
> >
> > I am a much smaller shop, but we really like Unitrends Virtual Backup.
> It is like Veeam, was less expensive for us, and just plain works.  I have
> no idea how if it could handle your solution.
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > ski
> >
> >
> > On 10/27/2015 06:14 AM, Adam Levin wrote:
> > Hey all, I've got a question about how you backup your VM environment?
> >
> > We're using vSphere 5.5 and NetApp NAS for datastores.  We have about 75
> > 8TB datastores, and about 2500 VMs.  The VMs are not distributed evenly
> > because of service levels associated with the datastores.
> >
> > We're being told by various backup vendors that the main issue is the
> > number of VMs per datastore, because quiescing lots of VMs and then
> > taking a datastore snapshot can produce long wait times when rolling the
> > qieusced images back in to the running VM.
> >
> > Our VM team is telling us that there is no current tool to manage the
> > number of VMs per datastore, just the size of the datastores.
> >
> > So I'm curious what some common methods are for managing backups in a
> > large VM environment. Do you just use agents and backup from within the
> > VM?  Do you bother doing app consistent backups of the VMs or just
> > snapshot the datastore and not worry about consistency?  Have you found
> > a product that manages qiuescing and snapshots in a reasonable way?
> >
> > We've looked at NetBackup, Commvault and Veeam so far.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
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