Interesting.  How is that different from just taking regular snapshots?
Don't you still have to quiesce the VMs before taking the flexclone? How
many VMs per volume do you have?

-Adam

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Ray Van Dolson <rvandol...@esri.com> wrote:

> We use CommVault + NetApp + FlexClone (Intellisnap).  As long as you
> schedule things so you only end up taking one FlexClone per volume per
> cycle, it works quite well.  The time to roll back the VMware level
> snapshots becomes very small.
>
> Ray
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 06:20:18AM -0700, Jason Barbier wrote:
> > Right now at $work we use a combination of Veeam weeklies,  because
> Veeam takes
> > a week to do all of our backups,  ans ZFS snapshots for nightlies.
> Getting
> > onto nextenta's SAN product with ZFS helped fix a lot of small issues we
> had
> > around backups and SAN migration.
> >
> > --
> > Jason Barbier | E: jab...@serversave.us
> > GPG Key-ID: B5F75B47(http://kusuriya.devio.us/pubkey.asc)
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, at 06:14 AM, Adam Levin wrote:
> >
> >     Hey all, I've got a question about how you backup your VM
> environment?
> >
> >     We're using vSphere 5.5 and NetApp NAS for datastores.  We have
> about 75
> >     8TB datastores, and about 2500 VMs.  The VMs are not distributed
> evenly
> >     because of service levels associated with the datastores.
> >
> >     We're being told by various backup vendors that the main issue is the
> >     number of VMs per datastore, because quiescing lots of VMs and then
> taking
> >     a datastore snapshot can produce long wait times when rolling the
> qieusced
> >     images back in to the running VM.
> >
> >     Our VM team is telling us that there is no current tool to manage the
> >     number of VMs per datastore, just the size of the datastores.
> >
> >     So I'm curious what some common methods are for managing backups in
> a large
> >     VM environment. Do you just use agents and backup from within the
> VM?  Do
> >     you bother doing app consistent backups of the VMs or just snapshot
> the
> >     datastore and not worry about consistency?  Have you found a product
> that
> >     manages qiuescing and snapshots in a reasonable way?
> >
> >     We've looked at NetBackup, Commvault and Veeam so far.
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >     -Adam
>
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